I know I’d prefer a delay instead of having to spend that time without guild chat.
It’s very odd, it seems they even merged the bmah on todeswache-die natchwache, but not the normal AH, nor the actual realm, makes little sense.
Update: it’s even weirder: only black market seems merged, but there’s no people from the other realm (on either world), and think, todeswache can access die natchwache AH, I was even able to buy an item that way, the opposite isn’t true, cause I posted back the item I bought, relogged die natchwache and it wasn’t in AH, and it certainly wasn’t bought by anyone else, it was a silly 6 slot bag at 1 gold.
And I’ve been checking on other items too: you check with die natchwache and you only see forscherliga and die natchwache posters; you check with todeswache and you see todeswache, zirkel, natchwache and forscherliga posters, so good for you if you are in todeswache I suppose!
Cant you just apply layering to retail, sharding and x-realm has been one big failcake since the beginning imo. Ugh. Just bring back free migration to low pop realms.
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I’m sorry, can you explain? I thought layering is another word for sharding.
I hardly believe that would help as there are too many realms right now. Maybe letting people transfer out the low pop realm for free until you can effectively close it will solve the problem.
Realm merges do the same thing basically, they reduce the amount of effective realms in the game.
@Chronormi: If I may?
Sharding and CRZ enable retail realms to concentrate more people into fewer shards there by making the world a bit more lively.
Layering allows Classic realms to split population, which allows more people in before queue comes up. Also, the entire realm is layered, not just individual locations as is by sharding + CRZ in retail.
They are slightly similar, but for the most part have opposite functions in practice.
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Isn’t it kind of weird that todeswache AH was connected 1-way only with die natchwache? As in you could buy natchwache stuff with todeswache but not viceversa?
The difference is in the community feel of it, running into old familiars from dungeon runs, quests. Layering just divides a realm in terms of what a server can handle.
Sharding from what ive experienced just throws u in a random shard with a bunch of realms, with ppl u cant trade with and cant join guilds. Mere luck if you see someone from your own realm. It leads to, in my opinion, a more disconnecting exp. Might be one of the reasons why ppl dont bother communicating anymore, its negatively affecting the game.
Even if they cant apply layering to dungeon finder, which is okay. At least being in a layer from your own realm within the outside world of Azeroth, will help forming a more healthy community.
Like, it would be nice to actually run into guildies or friends in cities or zones, without actively having to group with them. Cus they dont automatically get sharded with you, unless you group with them. Its complete world of disconnectioncraft.
Also a fine option in combination with layering, but that might effectively be the same as merging low pops. Doing that in combination with layering might be the best solution imo.
Apologies if this has been answered already but could I get clarification on whether any of this merging means losing character names? This is kind of a deal breaker for me; might seem like a minor detail but I’m on a low pop server and if I lost my character names I’d be disinclined to keep playing.
@Hellion: Names are preserved as the realm names function as “surnames” on connected realms.
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Ahh good to know, thanks!
@Trelw: do you have any idea how comes die natchwache and todeswache connection was only done halfway, as in that with todeswache you can find items from die natchwache and forscherliga in AH, but not viceversa?
@Esploratore: My understanding after carefully reading German players’ commentary is that it is considered a technical failure among others. There are apparently problems with guilds not existing and so on… 
That sounds interesting 
Damn, that’s annoying, I hope they get it fixed soon, meanwhile I’ve been reading german commentary as well and gave it a look, it could be (not sure yet) the realms were temporarily connected, then they got a problem and decided to split them again, as I also gave a look in game and all auctions I saw from die natchwache-forscherliga when I was logged in todeswache were long or short etc., there weren’t very long ones, which would hint it was only possible to put items in that the other realm would be able to see when the connection was just made.
I still am not able to prove the contrary, also as I’m short on slots, to do so I’d have to make an auction on die natchwache myself and see if I can see it on a todeswache-zirkel character.
But yes, I hope they fix it soon cause by now BMAH is connected, and those 2 worlds are most of the times already crz’d with each other, so not completing the connection would be, let’s say, getting the disadvantages of the connection without the advantages (no better economy, no mails, no players for raids etc.).
Edit: confirmed, if I post an item on natchwache I can’t see it on todeswache, so they were only merged at the start, then no more as far as the AH goes.
@Kaivax: hey, do you have any info about connections? We are aware there’s been problems in at least 2 of your 3 first connections, but do you know if you’ll be able to solve them with next maintenance? And are you waiting with new connections till then?
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Kaivax, there wasn’t a single blue message about the failed merge on DE realms since wednesday. Is there no community manager for the german forum anymore?
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It’s actually annoying, cause there’s at least a blue who posted on an unimportant topic, the wow cookbook (in the german forums) but ignored connected realms, not sure if he’s maybe not the one in charge but if he is it’d be pretty bad.
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I want Blizzard to update the thread with which realms are being connected or are now connected.
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I second this. It’d be immensely helpful to simply check this post rather than sifting through all the different languages of forums.
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True that, if I recall, not completely sure since someone had the good idea to delete the old forums, but I think back then they updated the main thread with new connections.
Anyway if you want to know, aman’thul and anub’arak and already linked servers got merged the other day, they had some guilds disappearing issues probably not fully solved, but the link is on.
Todeswache and die natchwache and already linked servers had their BMAH merged, rest wasn’t successful for now.
And black scar and borean tundra russian servers were also planned to be connected this maintenance but also unsuccessful, don’t believe they will try more till this is solved.
Overall, I think you’re asking too much: we aren’t even being updated about stuff going wrong, let alone about next plans!
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