What are you crying about again? Did you fail to comprehend the context again and want to play offended snowflake and try to find toxicity where is none? Isn’t that exhausting at some point?
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so much irony in one post.
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You thought I am not gonna call you out if you jump at me like that? Better stay in your corner then.
oh noes “shiver” tough guy is threating more irony.
Threatening? Do you have reading comprehension issues?
Maybe I was wrong and you are not just looking for toxicity where is none. Maybe you are just uneducated. Or maybe you are both 
Umm, no offense but you might want to read what I wrote again, because your reply is sort of nonsensical in regards to that.
I said that the number of people who do 10+ isn’t as large as they themselves think they are, so for the majority of players, ilvl 619 (the hardcap for champion track gear and runed crests, i.e. the “casual content”) is the hard progression wall (aka. the point when ones character can be considered “fully geared”), and your reply is basically “people do 10+ for 635+ ilvl” … and well, yes, some certainly do?
TLDR: For the vast majority of players, ones character can be considered “fully geared” at ilvl 619 - not ilvl 635+.
You are not everyone.
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I see, ye I misread there mb.
The thing is that ilvl 619 is not the cap for the vast majority. Weeks ago already we had statistics about M+ runs and iirc it was about timed runs. Low keys (be it 4-7) and +10 were very close. Now that everyone has much more gear it should shift even more towards +10.
Every time I want to help anyone with low keys, most of the LFG basically starts at +8 and everything is full with 8s and 10s. So ye, even tho I misread what you wrote first, I still don’t see what you base your statement on.
Opened LFG right now and I have 21 runs below +8 and the rest is above. How much runs are listed? 80? 90?
I understand it better than you, bub, because I spent more time being smart than spamming M+.
Sure I can do 10+. 1, 2 a week, 1 vault slot. If you truly no life the game you will have 3 slots filled every time with 10s - that requires a significantly more time to do.
Then you rig your RNG - I have 1 chance a week for myth upgrade from m+ and 1 from myth bosses. You get probably 3 to 5 slots. And that’s what people grinding hard do. Others chill. So obviously you will have by sheer force more gear than me.
Of course there are outliers. Sometimes you can get super lucky every week with one slot and get no upgrades with several myth track but it’s again, outliers. Cheers.
Kinda ironic how you say you are spending time being smart yet you say doing 8 dungeons in one week is no lifing… that’s literally 20 minutes gameplay 6 day + 40 minutes 1 day. That’s what you consider a no lifer?.. Well ok.
If you play less than 20 minutes a day, a MMORPG is literally not the right genre for you and you definitely should not be worried about loot and how geared someone is.
Not true. I am still missing myth track pants and 1 myth trinket!
So not fully geared yet. Only problem, desired items need to come from M+ vault slot and so far it never gave me any of those 2 item slots and the specif trinket I need.
Thanks for confirming your no life status. You are so detatched from reality you think that a 10+ M+ run takes “literally 20 minutes”.
Let’s start from basics - my 10+ timed runs are anywhere from 25 to 34 minutes. My fastest one is Dawnbreaker at 21:30 which is possibly the one that can be “relaiably” run around that time.
But you must be thinking you magically press 1 button, get full group and instantly start?
If forum users’ woes are of any importance - finding a group takes a considerable time and that is the actual problem of “running/spamming M+”.
Add some “leavers”, “Failed runs” or whatever and there goes your 6 x 20 mins.
And if you are gonna do some more mental gymnastics - I want to remind you that other modes of game exist. A lot of people who are pretty good at this game, after intial season’s “grind” don’t even fill all 3 M+ slots unless that’s literally the only thing they ever do. At this point most people will raid log and maybe do a weekly on 1-3 chars and do something else. Obvioulsy most of the playerbase won’t finish this season with full myth track gear in every slot (referring to the thread subject). M+ has turned more annoying this expac than last expac and many people quit and my source is my bnet friends literally unsubbing or much to my surprise - “rediscovering” classic.
inb4 you say I’m “bad” because I can’t start a group and finish a 10+ in 20 minutes but that will only further my agenda so choose wisely.
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It needs new scaling after a +10. That’s the fixes it needs. A +11 is an old +22. Move into a +12 that’s an old +25 to +26 thanks to scaling and the affixes. That’s too much of a difficulty spike for pugs. I have timed most them on a +12 but I got so sick of dealing with people and their nonsense I have stopped doing them.
I disagree with this statement but it might be an unpopular opinion.
WoW has always been an anomaly to me regarding its focus, which seem to be on the gearing and competitive side, despite the dopamin people get from playi g WoW gearing and overall customization is extremely limited, there’s literaly no other MMO as WoW where the customization is so restricted, limiting the progression to simple number increases instead of theory crafting and finding the best in slot gear with god roll perks.
Diablo or rather POE-like games do build their playerbase on gear oriented activities but the gearing in those games is interesting with tons of different perk that can be combined together.
It’s a strange game where the main focus is providing an environment for friends and guild mates to play together, individually however most other games are just far better than WOW, poe-like / MMOs for gearing, customization, single/coop games for story and customization etc.
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For someone who thinks he is smart, you are saying quite some desperate non sense.
What are people always saying? Get a group? Get friends? Get into a guild? Get into a community? Play healer/tank?
Even if it takes you 1 full hour (which it does not) to find a group and do one +10 dungeon for the vault. You think someone who plays 1 hour a day is a no lifer? My dude…what a bs… Mr. Smart…
Don’t play like a donkey and nobody will leave or fail. Just make smart decisions while forming or getting into a group and playing the dungeon. You are smart after all, no?
Nobody cares. Want M+ vault, go do M+. It’s that easy.
You are delusional. I am playing with the most casual friends you can find in any gaming community and the guys easily get their M+ vault + raid vault. But I guess every single one of them is a no lifer too in your book.
Wait wait wait… so playing 1 hour a game is being a no lifer but playing 3 characters at the same time is being casual? Lmao… can’t make this up 
Obviously not if you play a billion alts?! Dude…
Commit to one character and you good. You can even reroll mid season and STILL be good.
For someone who thinks playing 1 hour a day makes you a no lifer, and if your friends are just equally minded then it absolutely does not surprise me they leave.
Imagine thinking current M+ is worse in terms of progression as classic. And you call me detached from reality? My dude… you crazy.
Classic always took so much time that most casual players would be left behind while the progression is MUCH MORE important than on retail. If you don’t understand that, please, never ever again call yourself smart. You are not. Factually.
I don’t need to call you bad. I call you delusional af. You are truly detached from reality if you call someone a no lifer who plays one hour a day
Oh I agree wholeheartedly.
I think WoW imitates Diablo in the sense that it wants you to run the same content over and over again, and then simply progress through the difficulty levels of it.
And then the rewards for doing that are gear and various Seasonal objectives.
Exactly like you play Diablo.
And if you’re a competent player who’s playing together with other competent players, then you can get through it in a lot less time than the 6 months a Season lasts.
And even though I say it’s like Diablo, I agree that it very much is a poor man’s version of it, because WoW just doesn’t have the same degree of gearing and customization, and the gameplay is too static for something meant to be replayed so much.
too long, didn’t read.
but keep coping or whatever. I saw a lot of desperately crying emojis. Smells like a masked crying wojak. GG
PS: For someone who ran way over 100 M+ this season on your monk alone, you definitely hae a lot of nerve to even touch the subject of nolifing.
Of course you didn’t this is why you are a delusional weirdo crying on the forums.
I don’t randomly kill people and I still have enough common sense to say that randomly killing someone is not a good thing. You lack common sense, which is why you will never be able to improve (applies to everything in life btw) until you face and accept reality.
Yet you are the delusional one who thinks playing 1 hour a day makes you a no lifer. If you truly think that, you are simply mentally not ok and should seek for help.
But I am curious, in your own delusion, do you consider yourself a no lifer? Because counting the raids and m+ you did on your mage would equal more than just one hour gameplay per day. That’s not counting your other characters.
All you have shown so far is how you have no idea how loot distribution works and how you would consider the majority of people being no lifers in your delusion. And what for?
I am not 638 because I cba to farm M+ Gilded Crests til my eyeballs fall out my head…Thats the ONLY way you getting to 638 (Exception Mythic Raid)
5 x 8+ and 5 x 10+ the entire season on my mage and… 1 x 10+ and 1 x 8+ on lock xD … one or two low + on war entire season? wow, I really have no life lol
not sure why you are so obsessed with this 1 hour a day? no one said this except you. But you are silly if you think that would suffice in any way.
Actually, yes - most people playing WoW on a non-casual level have barely any life*. This is a fact - a lot of people complain how WoW feels like a second job. You wipe your face with “other people” and you are just one of those who lost their mind and can’t escape this hell.
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- I won’t believe you if you tell me you know people who literally do nothing but eat, sleep, minimum work and play WoW. I have plenty of those on my bnet. Damn, I know several people playing during work all the time.
PS: You keep using the word “delusion”… I don’t think it means what you think it means.