Good idea and i believe that this would increase pvp participation for a short time. Till they get the token. So give it at the end of the season
They havenât opened the flood gates on cm rewards why would they on pvp
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I think cm rewards are something different, this was really a one time event for PvE players. They didnât had anything like this to now.
The only set from pvp that is really special, for me at least, is the classic real 14 set. And that is obtainable.
So they also can open the elite pvp sets from tbc and wotlk.
No to the PvP elite sets.
They would loose all the " coolness " they have for people that got them in previous seasons.
See now this is what double standards look like, the pvp mogs per season are a one time thing per season too. If you didnât get it when it was current , thats on you.d
its like with current season, its spider themed and alot of recolours based off the current raid tier particularly, sure its not one of a kind visuals (but blizzard hasnât done that in forever anyway so whomp whomp.)
If you didnt hit x-rating in spider season, you dont deserve spider mog, simply.
If you didnt play prior to then or didnt bother trying then whomp whomp unlucky.
I get it youâre trying to propose work arounds or means of âreasonably unlocking itâ so you dont get it for âfreeâ, but you will never get to re-play those patches in the way they were played then and there, same with CM gear and thats why they should never be obtainable.
Besides its more than just WoW who does it, which would suggest the logic makes sense. And its more than just MMOâs which do it, mobaâs do it. Anything with some form of competitive scene.
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I would rather compare the elite set every season with the Mythic raid set.
The cm set was a special set, for every class specific.
Like i said, if i had any of those sets i wouldnât care if they where obtainable after the release of the next addon.
Hey guys I didnât play Cataclysm but I just hit 2400 CR in Solo Shuffle. Give me the Cataclysmic Gladiatorâs mount now you selfish and entitled elitists.
Transmogs from raids are RNG drops whether you kill the boss 100 times when itâs current content or one time when itâs 5 years later. The transmogs are not the REWARDS for killing the boss(es), it is an RNG drop. I killed Mythic bosses when they were current tier and I didnât get the pieces I wanted. Thatâs not the same as not getting a specific rating to unlock a set.
I find it interesting how you call people entitled and selfish for wanting to maintain some exclusivity and an ounce of prestige on their account. I would argue that the selfish and entitled ones are those who look at a game with over 1000 mounts and hundreds and thousands of transmogs that are freely available, but then look at the rewards they werenât good enough to get/didnât play to earn/didnât bother trying for and complain that they want those ones. I would love to know what the actual % of these âfomoâ rewards actually is.
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How is this even comparable? You can literally come back next expansion and grab the pve set without a raid group. Also the raid sets are not even considered ârewardsâ for raiders, they focus on completely different goals.
Youâre comparing PvP with PvE which is just complete nonsense. Itâs like in League where you get the seasonal Victorious skins, those are obv not obtainable after the specific season and never will be.
I understand you want ideas, game is dead af but this is not it. Anyone who thinks the reason PvP is dead are rewards and cosmetics is just giga coping or thinking heâs become a PvP god due to SS/Blitz formats.
This is much easier to say from a perspective of some1 who doesnât own them.
Youâre just giga fried if youâre comparing PvE to rated PvP environment.
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Ok but thats you.
Mythic raid sets came in a long long, long time after elite sets so they donât really hold upto them by any amount than the fact they are a recolour of the same set of the same quality because of the level of difficulty of said content, but even then raids has always been accessible thats why the mythic mog is always accessible cause thats how it was from day 1 with raids in general.
Same for CM gear, it was a late comer set (which has a recolour, just like pvp mogs.) but yet you still cant re-obtain CM gear.
Youâre welcome to your opinion but it will do more harm than good and it will deface alot of what most video games harbour, so.
Its easy for people to throw around opinions when theyâre the ones out of the loop of such items, Cm gear is a very high bar of an ask for a first thing for them to start giving as a welfare hand out through content you can buy a boost for.
and I get youâre trying to worm your way for a more reasonable/realistic item which blizzard might consider opening up to players: but elite was the defacto first limited time reward in a competitive bracket that should be the last thing they start handing out for âfreeâ
its a two sided sword, if u dont have fomo, many peoople dont care and saying "hey i farm it in the next months/next year
also it makes a âseasonâ close to be useless, game modes are called âseasonsâ for a reason
to make a season without, or close to no except 1 seasonal reward (glad) mount, does not hype up the majority of player
when allot of games have it, it have a reason why they have it.
imagine Diablo/Poe have no seasonal rewards, its a game what lives Literaly from being a seasonal game
Thats the modern gaming culture, that stuff is being Fomo/seasonal, dont get me wrong, i dont like it either when close to everything is Fomo, because when i want something (i have to force myself to play this game even when i dont want to)
but in other hands, sometimes these season also hyped me up, so i calll it still a win.
season starts and (fresh) generate a high amount of hype, where many people play it for the first couple of weeks/months, and then the graph went back to the bottom (its the most effective money maker, and also nothing wrong about it, because fresh seasons can be fun, or a more fun, than games what have zero seasons, and u reach a progression wall where you say âand what now?â
Problem is, wow wasnt like this for many Years, and catching slightly up (and it will get worse because of blizzard discussions ans greed
but when people crying that old sets looked âso goodâ while the new sets looking really garbage/most of them (which is true) then i see the Problem in the current art Designer/Art Leader.
either they only using Ai generated Assets, or throwing something halfbacked out, what looks either garbage, or makes no sense at all
the better solution to fix this issue, is just to have a better art team/art direction when it comes to sets
PvP sets should be atleast seasonal/unique, so people feel motivated to play in this current season to get this item when they want to, it also boost the participation up
if u make every âseasonalâ set available, it will in the Longterm damage the participation/Playerbase even more.
yeah, i know allot of players, also from private servers, what are playing there because they cant, or Dont want to afford 12/13 euro per month for wow
i dont think this is a good example, i know what u mean, but pve is also lacking of rewards, especially for the players what stay between âgoodâ and close to be really good
m+ for example, u can get your keystone mount, and then for a long time⌠nothing and then if u play close on a MDI Level u getting your r1 m+ title thats it, u have nothing in the middle
when it comes to raid sets, yeah in the next expansion u can auto farm them most likely, or atleast with 2-3 more players in the Grp, but the difference here is, that raiding is not mostly about the sets, its mostly about the mount from the last boss what have a really low Droprate while in the current expansion it had a 100% Droprate.
as example many players farmed Invincibleâs Reins for years, i have 4x Shadowmourne and still no invincible, so i think this was a good designe decision and counterbalance âdifficulty, to time investmentâ
i dont mind if they make older pvp sets available for everyone (btw i dont have them anymore cuz i got permabanned in wod)
but if they do it, make it as time consuming as Invincibleâs Reins, for example, when u reach 2.1/2.2 rating u get a Token where u can only buy 1 piece of the old pvp set item. (only obtainable in 2v2/3v3)
and when it comes to PvP, most of the players (which is sad) playing only for the rewards
so when players see a new season and thinking âoh this set/illusionâ is cool they will play it and will boost the Participation (and in a world without bad mmr designe desicions of blizzard) also the mmr
to make every Elite obtainable will be a âcoolâ thing short term, but in Longterm it will damage the pvp Playerbase/participation even more, and its already on live support lol
Sry for the Long text, i hope u guys reading it because feedback is important xd
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As long as blizzard is ok with Tmorph this is not an issueđ
Lol this is so rich. Basically Pve player wanting to keep their prestige rewards while also getting the pvp ones xD
Nah elite sets need to stay locked until corrupted Ashbringer , CM gear , black bug mount , old legendarys etc are also given out for free
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Compare the pvp ladder distribution now and thenâŚ
PVE players complaining gave you a game to play and gave you modes that you can actually play not just stay in LFG simulator, where you wait for hours for someone to queue just to loose 1 game and disband.
You did not get to 27000 achievement points by just playing pvp.
And once again, everyone is playing the same game, it being we control 1 character and we use those abilities to do DMG, that being against other monkeys or against artificial monkeys, why shouldnât the same rules apply?
Why are you more special for getting to 1.8k to be able to get a set that nobody else will ever after the season is over, but for the PVE ones, in 2 years all that anybody will have to do is to run turbo mode through the entire instance and get ALL of the sets slowly for ALL of the classes, with the changed transmog rules.
The fact that you can reach that rating is RNG as well, you can either be good or bad, you can be carried or you can be the carry, etc etc.
Its a game, current content should be the carrot and the stick, when people get bored of current content they should be able to go after what they want, that is what makes this game great.
The fact that you say getting to 1.8k rating makes you more desering than a PVE player that put in the time to grind the gear, the crests, the dungs, the trinkets, the everything, is blowing my mind.
You show up, you do 50 arenas and your gearing is over, all your journey can be done in 1 single day and that gives you the âprestigeâ to have that set vanish after the season blows my mind
thats what i mean. ppl here are talking about giving it out for free. But the system on how to make it optainable would also be a debate and a token for Elite in the Arena Brackets for 1 Token that hands you out 1 old elite set could make you end up having a better participation.
And for all old elite sets you would have to farm 1 token per season from now on, cause you only can get one per character per season maybe 
man ppl like this are so stressful. noone that isnât delutional would say stuff should go out for free, this would be so dumb 
ofc the OP posted about 1.8k but this is obviously delutional. But if you would read past that and discuss on a level if such a system in generel besides the requirements would be a good or bad thing.
AN implementation would need to be properly done, i think most ppl with a braind would agree here. The requirements are something diffrent and needs to be properly set.