New upcoming novel

And it seems that it’ll try to expand, and probably give some closure, to Sylvanas as a character.

Regardless of whether you like or hate her, I must say that I appreciate the effort put to give a more definite approach regarding the character. And having a novel that fully fleshes her as a character, beyond superficial or empty ingame dialogues and cinematics, seems as a good way of doing such.

Regardless of what end they give her, be it redemptive or condemning, I’ll personally welcome the effort to reconcile all the character takes, after several years of having it trashed and thrusted in different directions by several writers.

Let’s see how it ends.

PS: If it serves to give the Forsaken some additional lore or development, that alone would make the whole thing worth it.

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oh wow sylvanas thats certainly a character i want to see even more of /s

hopefully this is the last xpac we have to deal with this character / blizzard obsession.

** Ranger-General. Banshee Queen. Warchief. Sylvanas Windrunner has borne many titles. To some, she is a hero . . . to others, a villain.**

No blizzard shes not a hero, that was made pretty clear when she burned to death, men woman and children.

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I miss Metzen…

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I still love her as a character :frowning:
If there’s a novel about her, it either comes at a huge turning point for the expansion and we will lose her as a main character or they are merely condensing her story, as they say they are doing.
I’m not even sure what kind of an ending does Sylvanas Windrunner deserve. Maybe guilt ridden, maybe not filled with redemption, maybe something completely unexpected.

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I’ll bet it will turns out that Dreadlords actually were the one who poisoned Sylvanas mind.
And together with Sylvanas we will kill Mal’Ganis, to revenge for all Night Elves children that the Horde have burned down alive. :man_facepalming:

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I hope they’ll cut out some of the weird vein elements they introduced to her character a while ago. There was too much emphasis on her obsession with beauty and vanity in a very odd way that didn’t fit her disciplined militaristic personality.

Either way, I do hope it will be the end of it, in a good way. So many other characters and stories waiting to be told. Oh and hopefully, no more forced retcons either! Just want this to be a good story, regardless of where it ends.

I find these sort of takes quite telling.

I mean, writers had to retcon a whole lot of things in order to have their BfA take on Sylvanas.
And certain people took them gladly.

But now that they may end up trying to give a proper explanation beyond “she suddenly went genocidal”, most of these same people start complaining about it.

I know that it was rather convenient to have the story twisted to validate the wildly hyperbolic hatred towards her character, but maybe it’s time to put aside the bias, and acknowledge the fact that regardless of personal feelings towards her, her recent arch lacked proper logical explanation and development.

Personally, I don’t think that Sylvanas has been all that relevant in recent narrative.
True, she has been a background element that triggered certain plots, but beyond that?

Legion had her making some short cameo in one zone, and then left the picture completely.
BfA had her kickstarting all the events, and then quitting the main picture completely. We don’t interact with her until a brief exchange at the end of the mid patch, and once again at the very end of the expansion.
And now, in SL, we haven’t met her once yet, and will probably won’t until the end of the new campaign quests, and her boss fight.

Comparing said sort of presence with the one Anduin, or Jaina, or even Saurfang had in BfA, and I honestly think that Sylvanas can’t be considered even a protagonist.

And I dread that once Blizzard ends her character arch (in the patch or novel), they’ll fully commit to having everything be about Anduin. Who has been playing major roles in the story since Mist of Pandaria, and has been one of the protagonists of the last SEVEN novels that expand on the setting.

This is my opinion, but i find the stereotypical hero trope that fights cosmic horrors much more boring and tiring.

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Well, you do hit the nail on the head with that one. I just hope they fill in the gaps in a meaningful way. I don’t care for redemption or condemnation, just make the story make sense and let everyone make up their minds about it.

Although in complete agreement with you, I’m afraid Anduin won’t be going out of focus for quite some time. They’ve clearly built him as a particularly central character to the story, the human equivalent of Thrall, if not more than that now.

You bet that as soon as we’ll start dealing with the “evil Light” scenario that is being so hinted at, Anduin will be the centre piece again and will represent the “no the light can still be good, it’s all about balance” kind of play. My hopes are that post being dominated, his personality will change slightly to something more interesting.

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Oh damn, so they’ll just retcon her entire past story to redeem her and justify all the crimes she commited and glorify the Teldrassil genocide?

That over 300 pages? Can’t wait. Absolutely disgusting

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Nah.

They’ll probably explain (and maybe revert), the retcons they did in order to have her commit said crimes.

If it makes it easier to swallow, think of it as probably reverting back to WotLK Sylvanas. And maybe fixing the character that was recently misused to create this Garrosh 2.0

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I mean the inevitable outcome of the book is that she’s suddenly good now which sucks because she still hasn’t faced any consequences for her actions not only with Teldrassil, but all of her other crimes as well.

So that means she gets a free pass on everything, her entire history will be rewritten and Teldrassil will just be left in the dark and somehow nobody is responsible for it?

This. Also having strange monologues in a world that doesn’t need it nor did it have to be entertained. Somehow, those triggered me more than the other range of errors.

First female warchief n’ proud of it paragraph, anyone?

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So Christie Golden went back to writing the books? I wonder why…

Anyhow, I really hope she won’t get “kerrigan’d”, and I also hope Christie Golden doesn’t write Sylvanas like an edgy emotional teenager, like her last portrayal of murdering bunnies.

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I’m definitely looking forward to this one, but only in a morbidly curious trainwreck-watching way. It’s Blizzard with their insufferable “mOrAlLy GrEy” pet subject, so I fully expect this will turn out to be a bit of a poopshow.

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Yeah…that bit was extremely cringy.

I mean, she comes from a kingdom that already had several women acting as the top commanders of the race’s military. And even their race is an offshoot of a another one based on matriarchal society.

If we are to address her tags in such absolutes, BfA made it as if she was suddenly bad.

So if we are to revert partially said take, then whats the difference?

I repeat, that i get it that it was rather convenient for some people to have her become Satan incarnate (as it would validate their bias against the character).
But sorry, you may need to accept that the character had layers beyond being but another Gul’dan.

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And then we just entirely ignore Teldrassil, while pretending that Sylvanas never did it, but also while still letting the Night Elves have all the negative aftereffects of it? Such as being near extinction, having barely any territory left, no home, nothing.

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As opposed to having the entirety of the Forsaken narrative arch being force to ignore, and abandon whatever positive effects her character had over them, while also having them suffer from the backlash of having yet another of their faction leaders villain batted to death?

Yeah, there are two sides of the coin here.

And difference here, is that the book doesn’t try to ignore the effects of BfA on her character. These are all accounted for already in its quick summary.

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Can’t help but feel like there’s sudden different degrees of takes here.

I hate her as much as much as the bandwagon, but we don’t know that. It’s fine to theorize and argue, but you’re pretty much sold on that’s the material they’re going with. Either another cavalcade of ignoring Teldrassil, or making fun of the Night Elves.

Exclusively.

Not exactly sure what you’re trying to get here by repeating this over and over again…

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It tries to somehow spin Teldrassil as a good thing to let Sylvanas be the “hero”, because otherwise there’d be no way they can realistically pull it off.

That also means that there won’t be any resolution at all.

Where?

Because we have stuff like:

Sylvanas will be forced to reflect on the harrowing path that brought her to the Jailer’s side
To some, she is a hero . . . to others, a villain.

And that’s in the summary alone.

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