Night elf potential

Since the topic of human potential, has once more resurfaced, tis my duty to provide some insight into it, as the authorized forum-stalking male human paladin, and we all know how my kind behaves.

Now, human potential is a true thing. Imagine how amazing it would be if it was replaced by night elven potential. Here is an alternate history of WoW, if another race instead bore the fruits which the humans have stolen from them.

Our story begins in Vanilla. The night elves are not particularly relevant, a lot of their lore did not make it into the game. Let us say there are no Wardens, and no Druids of the Claw, but the night elven quest zones are relatively normal, and properly portray the racial lore.

Then in Wrath of the Lich King, returns Jarod Shadowsong, and becomes the new leader of the night elves. He unites the Alliance behind him with an iron fist, which is only proper, as a new war is beginning.

There comes Cataclysm. The entirety of Ashenvale is turned into an Alien vs Predator parody, where you feed the Predator (some sort of wild-god) until he is capable of wiping out the Alien, the Orcish summoned corrupted fire elemental brought in by Garrosh. There is no Ashenvale lore, everything rotates around the movie. The Silverwing Sentinels do not exist.

Darkshore is turned into a C:SI thing, where you investigate the death of a nightsaber called Old Toothy, until it culminates in Lordanel vanishing in flames, as the Cult of the Forgotten Strand resurfaces and destroys everything, despite Horatio Elunson, the mighty detective from Darnassus, trying to stop them.

The Horde invades Feralas, puts it to the torch, destroys it in its entirety, Shandris barely escaping back to Darnassus with a handful of refugees.

Despite Jarod Shadowsong heroically beating back the invaders, no lands are reclaimed, he only wags an admonishing finger at the Horde, while domineering over his vassals, but peace reigns for a time, as Vol’jin helps us win the war, but not before the Darnassian fleet is sunk in a novel.

Nonetheless, Jarod is mighty.

The Sisterhood of Elune is being yelled at by him, druids too, he has no equal, everyone bows to him, and the night elves are the most represented Alliance race in terms of NPC usage. Shandris is known as his attack-dog.

Legion comes, it all seems fine, although Jarod died, heroically killing a Fel Reaver. You butcher Astranar in his honor, the Legion cult has taken over the Night’s w…erm, I mean, the local sentinels.

A new leader arises, Jarod’s child from Vanilla, called Jarudin. Jarudin believes in peace, but he has no problem with druids and priestesses serving him drinks, he dominates the Alliance narrative, suffocating his own nation to the point of no-existence, but he is now effectively the Blue Warchief.

A new war begins, Sylvanas burning Stormwind, thanks to Maiev falling for misinformation and bringing the humans to ruin, but that’s ok, because Jarudin rallies his armies, and attacks the Undercity, to avenge the slight.

His entire army has no precautions for the Blight, until Tyrande flies in on a hippopotamus, banishing it with Elune’s Starlight, but the night elves have already suffered heinous loses, their assault stalled and beaten back, all for nothing, as the City is blown up over them, the survivors barely retreating. (the hippopotamus falls too)

Darnassus’s docks are littered with coffins. Fortunately, in Val’sharah, you find a fleet, and Tyrande is sent back to negotiate with the local temple, settling some grudges from the past, and this amazing fleet attacks Zuldazar with sterling success, Tyrande flying on a saucer, destroying Zandalari armies with lighting out of her eyes. Unfortunately, it is all in vain, as the fleet goes down in its entirety, with countless night elven soldiers, after moving in full numbers against several Horde ships.

Jarudin goes back to crying on the shoulder of Saurfang, babbling, weeping, snot is running everywhere, tis quite the sight, but the poor orc was captured at the Undercity, and has no choice but to listen and help.

Finally, Jarudin summons enough night elves for one final assault, and the Reckoning happens, Saurfang dying, the Horde liberated.

Everyone salutes mighty Jarudin, who’s schemes brought us victory, Tyrande standing proud besides him. Malfurion reclaims a portion of Feralas, and is the local commander.

Do you want this potential for the night elves, or for anyone else? I think it sounds really beneficial.

Who wouldn’t want to sacrifice the entire lore of their race for a Superman leader, right? I am really happy I am a human main.

Granted, I am not of the Stormwindian branch, but who cares, humans are obviously the overlords of WOW, their race shining peerless through out the ages. Oh, and we also have portals. In two cities, which are both human. Coincidence? I think not.

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The problem is a little so they’re held in your face. You can’t overlook them, you can’t focus on the positive concentration and that for example the plot around Azshara was given to Jaina in 8.2 didn’t make it any better. It rather made this argument stronger.

An example what put it especially into focus how much residual weight the humans still have in the alliance was the experience with the supreme command of the alliance , you might expect a certain diversity there, but what hit you? Only - and exclusively - humans

Now, of course, you could say people of different nations, but it doesn’t make it any better.

Then you can say that the Horde - and especially the nightbornes - and blood elves are literally rubbed in the face as a 40-year-old magician is better than anything they can do, before a maybe 60-year-old looking grandpa is better in everything than they are. What a highly magical people they are supposed to be according to Lore, what a mockery.

These are all examples that keep the meme “Human Potential” alive. Characters - humans - are used to push humans at the expense of other races.

Not to be imagined if a Thalyssra had literally torn Jaina apart like a 10,000-year-old Nightborne should. No, it had to be natural that she didn’t have a chance…and doesn’t even know what kind of spell Jaina had used…

then i answered that here

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Would that be the human race, or the 2 poster boys of it? :thinking:

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Defakto the problem isn’t the “race” of humans, but the way WOW tells his story and how the way it happens makes whole races either stupid and incompetent or just destroyed in favor of human hero character push.

Call it how you want…that is the problem with “human Potential”…

It wouldn’t have been wrong if the 7th Legion had been led by a dwarf, the Alliance spy service by an elf, the Technician caste by a gnome. Then one would still have had a human king like Anduin, a general like Genn and a lord admiral like Jaina.

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I believe that the human race is the one who suffers the most from such characters, as they destroy it. Granted, the other race have to bow to the supreme character too, but their lore, such as it is, isn’t contaminated to such levels.:thinking:

They can exist beyond the momentary interaction. Humans do not have this honor. I would argue they do not even have normal starting zones.

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Night elves at the time of the war of the ancients? The masters of arcane magic, unmatched and unsurpassed, learned from a human…arcane magic better than they ever could? Wtf?!

Instead of giving Rhonin the role of the humble sorcerer who has just advanced into THE ERA of Magic, he has been made the teacher of ILLIDAN.

Especially the integrity of the elfenlore is all too often completely destroyed and ruined by humans.

Tyrande, a 10,000-year-old general who led the long watch and specialized in ambush attacks, had to learn patient? WHAT? From a primate like Varian?

It’s all such a slap in the face, that it’s just slowly but surely so extremely upsetting the other fans of the other races that you can only call it Human Potential.

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That’s all nice and well, how does that beat the fact that the human race has nothing except those ridiculous characters?

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They cant, thats the problem…thats the Reason for this meme

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So, you believe that we are all in the same situation?

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Allow me to summarize my take in one short sentence.

Even if what humans get is a load of crap it’s still better than what most other races get.

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So, the humans actually have it bad, but slightly better then some other races. Probably worse then some others.

From whence do these countless accusations of human potential, bias and overlordship come from then?

When I read them, I would think Stormwind is paradise, but the way you phrase it, it almost sounds as if we are all in the same pit of mud.

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compared to most other places it is :slight_smile:

Indeed, yes, i think we are all in the same situation.

Imagine a cat-animal gnome would now come who has the worgen shape for exactly 2 days and can learn the worgen more than they have ever learned. Or can what the worgen have learned them only be much better? Or are used everywhere now and are the focus of all things.

This symbol illustrates the problem of what humans bring with them, they become the focus of a story and you can’t escape it because they’re really imposed on you and your story from your people.

You don’t get the chance to really see the dark side of the whole thing because you only get to see the centerstage from this race - no matter what.

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Also, your sister kingdom of Eldre’thalas, which played a big role as THE night elf center in the last two games, was wiped out by demons, their denizens are now undead herf members and the whole thing is led by an undead tauren. Also, you can go in and slaughter the remnants of the kingdom, because Immol’thar is masking as their leader or something, and that makes them more evil than the undead elves for some reason.

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As my people say, tis easy to grab poison Ivy with someone else’s hand. :slightly_smiling_face:

Tell me, did you enjoy your heritage quest, full of lore, and your amazing Eversong Woods and Ghostlands? If the answer is yes, swing over for some Rambo.

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Hu? when get Eldre’Thalas the centerstage?

I mean, it was pretty old lore but yes I did. It’s timeless unlike some of the other heritage quests.

Lucky me. :slight_smile:

hrmm, you don´t know the heritage of the stormwind- Humans, no one know it now, I think we´ll get a little bit lothar feeling.

Or maybe some more Rambo! There are several parts, after all.

If only we were that lucky. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Nice.

But yeah, I subscribe. Op dragonball z characters plastered over the face of your player characters race don’t work out so splendidly for the story.
Not in these amounts anyway

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