I am quite curious, I was doing DM and we got cape +6agi 3+stam.I play as a Rogue, Warrior took from me it, for some funny cryt and some ap str<agi user… ;/
Agility is not bad for warriors. Not ninja at all. Some leather items are even BiS for warrior.
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Not ninja imo
Not a ninja, no.
Agility is good for warriors so no, not ninja
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It was not nice. Not ninja but you would benefit more.
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That’s not how loot rules work. It isn’t prioritised for the person for whom its a bigger upgrade. If it’s an upgrade, you Need. Simple as that really.
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It’s very simplistic view. You should think about other players.
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Other player obviously didnt think about OP.
Ye… I’m sure warriors would think it totally fair if a hunter needed on a Str and Stam or +def item just because it had a little agi on it. Or just a 2 hander with a lot of str. There’d be no discussion at all there!
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I don’t think tte warrior in your scenario would be happy but the hunter wouldn’t be a ninja.
If it has more agility than their current one then I dont’ see how that’d be a ninja.
Besides it’s quite a different comparison. Agility is a great stat for warriors whereas Defense does 0 for a hunter.
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Agility gives warriors crit, avoidance and armour.
Warrior talents are all about crits, 20agi = 1% crit at 60 and alot more at lower level. Early on when you don’t have much attack power yet agi is valued over str.
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That depends entirely on how restrictive you are with the term. In the OP’s example, I wouldn’t call that ninja’ing.
But both examples I gave I would definitely call ninja on. Just like if a warrior would grab a ranged weapon with only ranged AP from a hunter, regardless of if it’s an upgrade to the warrior’s current ranged weapon.
And a pure str weapon could easily be an upgrade for a hunter, but if you need on one over a warrior it’d be an upgrade for, you’re ninja’ing.
Indiscriminate “an upgrade is an upgrade” is just a bs excuse to be a douche and grab as much loot as you can.
At low lvls it makes little difference, because items get replaced quickly and stats give different values. But at 60, there are clear priorities in stats and looting accordingly is just common courtesy.
At 60, Def gives all classes 0.04% dodge, 0.04% parry, 0.04% block, 0.04% reduced chance to be hit, and 0.04% crit res.
By your definition, it’s fair for a hunter to need if it’s an upgrade.
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I meant for purpose of PVE encounters (dungeon/raid), hunters damage (their role) does not increase with Defense, unlike tank who does.
If you want to give some examples of actual real items then maybe we can discuss but I don’t really know what you are trying to say. You said if there is a Defense / Agility item should a hunter need on it?
Well if it is an Agility upgrade I dont think that is really ninjaing?
To the original point… I’m level 40 Warrior and I’d roll Need on that deadmines cape +6 agility right now lol.
Arms is very crit dependant (deep wounds, rage inc., 120% crit dmg), if levelling warriors don’t have agility, they don’t have any crit…so prio for levelling warriors tend to be agi>str etc.
The issue here seem to be that people think rogues are an agility class and warriors are a strength class. But thats not actually true. Warriors get a lot out of agility at any level as critting more means they generate a lot more rage and can use more abilities.
The DM cloak is by far the best cloak obtainable by warriors at that level, so its only fair they need on it. Hell, even the blackened defias chest should be rolled on by Warriors, as there just isnt anything better available for many many levels.
Its not fair to say that only the rogue can need on item X because it has agi, when the item is also the best possible item for the warrior.
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Levelling with a healer, your prio is certainly not spirit 
Rage causes hair loss.
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