No flying in 8.1.5, but some portal removal

You just say that the way you are playing is the good way, but many people have different priorities and reasons why to play the game, You seem like a bit of an elitist to me.

But Blizzard just increased the amount of time per run for no obvious reasons + he prolly like to run the dungeons/raids and does not feel like it is a waste of time. And yet again you say that he should have limit for time he spends in the game per day. He can do whatever he wants with his time but you keep creating these suggestions…

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Im not going to respond to you anymore you are not bringing anything worthwhile to the table and only see’ing it from your view only .
If you can not see reduceing my mounts runs = less FUN for ME then iam sorry you are not woth debateing with .
I think you are being deliberately obtuse towards me IE trolling/baiting me so i give you a heated response .
My game time and fun is being reduced because of this please think outside your narrow box there is a bigger picture and more types of players then just YOU .

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Don’t bloody put them in to begin with the-

Uhh, I mean. Wow! Great. I’ve been waiting for them to do this for a long time now, tbh. All of the portals were toxic for the game and now seeing them streamlined is great, isn’t it?

We’ll have to travel more and as a result, we’ll play the game even more so we can better take in the content. :slight_smile:

Don’t know why people are so upset, really.

You being sarcastic here, aren’t you?

We’re discussing the approach to mount runs, the impact of portals, and the time associated with it all.
In that regard it’s natural to inquire in what manner people commit time to WoW. And in regards to the concerns expressed by some, it definitely seems like their issues stem from the fact that they commit an unlimited amount of time to WoW in order to do an arbitrary amount of tasks. To me it seems as if the obvious solution there is to simply commit a fixed amount of time to WoW, because then you’re never going to spend excess time on anything in the game – least of all travel.

No, I understand that. But what you want is portals and instant traveling to wherever you want your mount-farming-army to be.

I don’t want you to have that degree of easy travel and access to content, because I think it detracts from the way an MMORPG should be played.

And Blizzard seems to be on my side in regards to these portals, so you’ll have to come to terms with that. Though considering how they’ve made traveling so easy in the first place, it’s not like your interest haven’t been taken into account over the years. I mean, the ease of travel we have today has enabled you to easily do mount runs with 20 characters as it is!

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I completely agree with Jito.

We can make the game more like WoW classic this way. :slight_smile:

i also port around quite a lot cause of time issues. it doesn’t mean that the world doesn’t look and feel big still. and we often have reasons to go to each zone again. i am not disagreeing with you that people will port to the next world boss etc, as i said, i do that, but the world still feels big. in wow most people stick to the current or last expansion for their tasks and thats it. world bosses in gw2 drop needed stuff whatever your level. while legion, wod or cata world bosses aren’t worth anything at 120 (unless you need tailor or jc plans or spirehawk). same with mop bosses if it was not for the mounts.

if people want to explore, they can ignore the portals, but there isn’t much to grind for in gw2 (apart from crafting mats which ARE terrible). anything else is usually assessable from lions arch. i am a bit out of touch with the game i admit and things may have changed, but the world map still looks massive.

i half agree with you here. yes, it feels more dead than TBC (i cant claim knowledge on classic) ever did, and while part of this may be due to portals, i dont think a massive part was. take WotLK, dalaran had portals to the major cities then, but you always ran into other players.

i dont know what the root causes are, and while i agree portals may contribute, i doubt it would be in double figures percentage wise. maybe not even 5%. there is just nothing to do for the most part in anything that is not current or previous expansion and people might only do previous expansion because they didn’t do it when current cause no flying, so they are doing it now. there are many issues, but i dont think blizz cares too much about the old world which is surprising as they love recyling old content atm.

i dunno what the fix is, but removing old portals, or adding more portals will not fix anything of consequence.

final example, some have said that the legion portal to kara is gone. now, im presuming that the portals to the dark portal are not gone? if so, people will just port to the dark portal, and fly to kara. this will NOT make the world feel bigger cause people will just be flying across the blasted lands, but it WILL annoy players who are farming kara on multiple toons/weeks for mount and transmog.

same with CoT portal, same with shat portal, same with wrymwrest temple portal (as there is no way to wotlk dala unless you have ring/mag).

there is no win there, only a loss.

It says something when people can be bothered running ten to twenty toons through a dungeon/raid to one shot a boss at a chance for a vanity mount but can’t be bothered taking an extra few minutes to get there.

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Thats your view not mine or many others you dont and never have spoke for the whole so please stop assuming it is a fact many want and need this .

No i will not and please stop telling me to stop voiceing my views you are nothing but a player so stop it .

Heavens forbid the amount of work i put into leveling said army of alts .
Thats the problem with you Jito you see black and white and only one view which is your view .
You never look outside the box thankfully you are not a MvP anymore we have proper decent and unbiased ones now who do an amazing job .

I like others only have a set amount of time towards wow please stop assuming things about me i will flag you for harrasement and untruths thanks .

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Oh here we go again “Traveling through outdated zones is content! It’s immersion! Just take a FP then and go AFK for 5-10 minutes (or even more if Horde and not a mage in EK) just to get to a dungeon of vanilla! What are you guys? LAZY?!”.

Not even gonna try to debunk why traveling the same zones over and over gets tiring, why doing a zone for 4th time isn’t fun etc. Just done with it. Aside from this I’m sick and tired of being forced to be in SW every damned expansion. Which they do by removing all side portals (not main cities) aswell. SW, SW or SW… /sigh

Bliz if you hate mutple cities burn down Thunder Bluff then, have the volcano in IF explode. All in SW or Orgrimmar!

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Again those portals were there for a very long time, why it is a problem right now? Btw he does not want another portals to be added, just those that were in the game to stay where they are.

You seem to always get it only from your point of view.

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I enjoy it. You don’t.

That’s all it is. :slight_smile: Blizzard designs really beautiful, innovative and artistic zones for us to explore and seeing them go to waste is a shame. I never find it boring because I always find new things that I never noticed before. Just remember, how you enjoy the game isn’t necessarily how someone else might enjoy the game.

It’s nice that the game is sort of regressing a step in the right direction for a change.

:slight_smile:

do you think people like that (of which i am one) want to spam a dungeon on 10-20 different toons? every week? NO! it is because blizz purposely keeps drop rates so low and random that i have to keep going on 10-20 toons per week if i want the item. so to this end, the “extra few minutes to get there” starts to equal a whole run, ie. one more chance at what im trying to get. and one shotting bosses is not really a thing anymore thanks to stat squish.

if we weren’t being restrained by low rng, i would not mind flying across the world to get to the instance, clear it, get the ACTUAL item i wanted there, then go spam bg’s the rest of the week. i dont want to spam the same instance every week on multiple toons. i want to spam pvp but cant cause i want the items, and they never drop.

  1. I missed the moment you’ve been made an adviser managing other people time in general and the amount/way they spend in game in particular.
  2. I guess I also missed the part that makes you qualified to decide how an MMORPG should be played, especially one with WoW particular situation. If is your personal opinion based on your preference then you have 0 rights to go “I don’t want you to have” against other players.
  3. I hope you realize that apart from having to swallow this decision, people can also choose to simply uninstall Bnet . I think there were some smart people that thought players have to come to terms with removal of flying from WoD onwards. Went very well, from what I recall…
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I think he/ she has a point there.

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I beg to differ. I am not advocating for Vanilla times where the only portals that existed were those Mages had.

I am perfectly okay with the game having some portals and some teleportation items.

But when the game has consistently added more and more over the years, then at some point it starts to become too many.

And in my opinion the game has already crossed that point. Therefore I approve of scaling it back a bit.

I completely concur. :+1:

XD. You think you’re entitled to rare and extravagant mounts that some players had to gear up and work their posteriors off to get?

WOW.

I mean, I do the whole mount farming thing too, but the satisfaction of actually getting a low drop rate item or mount is far more satisfying than just having it given to me on a silver spoon, even though I’m getting it with relative ease and outside of the expansion it was released in.

This is just putting the whole ‘portals’ thing aside and derailing though.

Might as well just ask Blizzard to put everything at a 100% drop chance so we don’t have to play the game. XD

You said it “I” not everyone agree’s that portal has been there since 2008 over 11 years and has access to 8 instances its not a small thing .
I am not asking for other portals to be added just things being removed which should never happen in a game STOP removeing just ADD .

And Mion please stop your usually trolling and sarcasm and try and keep on track please .

I can understand the recent removing in Shrine and Old Dala but removeing more was not needed but anyway its 9pm time for some hot chocolate and relax time instead of being accused of being a no lifer by an ex MvP .

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they can fix other rpg elements before adding more ‘‘flying simulator immersion’’
like

class quests
class spells
class armor
race quests
race armour
race zones
profesion quests
profesions skills
professions zones

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Well now they decided to do the portal rooms for patch 8.1.5. Hopefully they’ll address other areas in need of tender, loving care in the future.

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