No german CM - so we will ask here for german RP-Server

I totally agree but I don’t think we have that risk in Classic. It’s a bigger risk to split the community and end up with dead servers that can’t be merged because of language barrier.

Hydraxian Waterlords isn’t crowded, it’s medium at most and a very friendly server. I sincerely hope you German rpers will come here and give us a try. I’ve seen there are German speaking guilds established and from many other countries as well.

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In case of doubt it’s a good idea to take what’s there and go from there, no matter whether it’s perceivedly or actually fair or not. A german RP server isn’t in sight so the best bet for people who want to play and rp in german as well as for people that want to do it in other languages than english or german, is to go to the english language RP server(s) and do RP in german there. If enough people that want to rp in german do that, there’ll be a big enough sub community to do so, that can exist aside of the english language rp, and ideally people that are still open to rp in english from time to time can do that as well. Not to mention the rp community not being split apart on multiple rp servers then. The client can be set to german language version also, which only leaves the drawback of the public channels being in english (which they aren’t always, as there’s at least spanish, polish and dutch minorities that communicate in their native language).

Mind, that’s just my opinion and I’m not claiming it to be the best solution, but the most effective one considering the circumstances.

And? Those people are at least speak the same language and do not want to disturb RP.

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Medium Population is still more then full Servers at Classic time.

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As i said, making German RP servers doesnt make classic authentic.

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Yes, that’s what I think too. I think they underestimated the number of people willing to play Classic in general. The plans didn’t say german servers and spanish servers and so on. What happened? German community made an outcry and we got 2 servers. Both of them full, so 2 additional servers and so on.
Spanish people wanted a spanish server and they got one now.
So who of you has this crystal ball that shows the number of RP players? Noone has.
In fact, all of our PVE realms are full and have layering. And in all the time we haven’t got a new PVE server for transfer. What the heck?
I am pretty sure, that a RP server would be filled minimum medium, because lots of RP players wants to play there and additional people who don’t like to play with players like “dumbass” “freaky” “barndoor” and so on.
There is no risk for Blizzard to give us a single server.

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The german playerbase is strongest in WoW-EU. Many people forget that english servers arent equal to english players.
Poor scandinavians and others have to play there cause of the lack of other options.

Think about it when you complain about the just medium sized english RP server.
Maybe these non-brits also avoid playing there because their language skills are enough for raiding/dungeons/pvp but not for roleplay.

PS:
To the guy who asked wether the EU teached us nothing.

I think the current EU situation is telling me that we should get rid of English being parlements-language after brexit.
Some native speaking irish people are too few to hold demands on it. :wink:

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Like, I’d like for u to have RP servers, but your post comes across as a bit arrogant. What makes you any more special than other Europeans? While Germans don’t have to use English usually, English can perfectly be self taught and I reckon most peoples in Europe learn English best thru gaming/being on the internet. Not working at a multinational corporation seems like an odd excuse not to know the language Europeans use to communicate online

Blizz doesn’t know the demand… as they simple do not ask.
Blizz even wont give us national languish Server at all, and now there are 6 full (with layering) and 1 withour layering only for DE.

I’d like to play on a 1500k Server (as in former times).

You doubt sth., I will redoubt it. So 2 opinions… who si right? We will see, if there are DE-RP-Servers.

They set up DE-RP-Server in 2005… so why coundn’t they give us OUR classic feeling back?

Chinease ist the most spoken languish by motherspeaker… its time that you native english speaking face the truth… welcome on chinease server with mandarin support. I’m sure the support is cheaper if Acti-Blizz will outsource it.

You found ironic parts? Well done Quest compleate.

Thats the point.

I really think Acti-Blizts has no clue, what the reason was for the success of classic wow… so they are able to further develop the game… but if you do not have any idear, why the gamer like the game, you will probably run into the wrong way…

That would not be so strange, nevetheless if you hear sth. like “You dont have phones?” or “You belive you want, but you don’t.” and so on…

That makes me shouting: “You do not know your customers” moreover: “You do not even try to know them.” and thats even more dramatically.

Medium means: full in former times (2005). I never feel alone earlyer™…

Well at first: Thanks for the open minded welcome. But: No thanks. The classic-remembrance in my mind makes me “Wanna play WoW CLassic”, that means:

DE-RP-Server.

Why? I do not want to test my medium school English to be not good enough for rp.
It is my time to relax and chat and use word-jokes, which I could not or only reduced in other languages.
There are multiple other RP games with much better grafic and RP elements (commands), like TESO. But the reason why I do not play RP on TESO is:

The content does not fix me up, and the RP is not possible in “open world”… in former times ™ (played on Kult der Verdammten), it was always practical to talk to other players in /s ingame-speach. And you will receive an adequate answer (sometimes it wasn’t a role player, just leaching the atmosphere there, but mostly people reply)…
That is the feeling I want to have. In my mother-language.

But the phobic of ghost-servers (as it is no reason to be phobic for) is bigger, than original feeling. The layering for example makes the economy not classic like. It feels like mega server. Boring! Annoying. Same with TESO: Server runnign fluid, there is some kind of layering or sharding active, there is ONE realm, but it doesn’t feel like a small world. If you assist someone in fight at day 1 you will never see him back in the further days…

it is anonymouse and not like I wanna play.

So Blizz:

please give us German-Roleplay-Server!

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True.

Not for you, but for me/ for us…

Acti-Blizz does underestimate the success of classic at all, moreover it seams like the want do undermine the success at all cost! Give them classic, but with less servers, therfore long cues (up to 2 hours and more), slow support on release day (I mean: You could estimate, that there could be a little chance of more players: so open up quickly new server!).

But open up new server quickly is also a failure: There is no chance of come together for RP-player on one server… most RP doesn’t look into the forum… so they do not notice, then they pla on the server they start (some), play on server with no cues (some) play on third server (some)… so the german RP are splittet over all 7 German servers (even more, as some playing on EN-Server)…

And all that was predictable.

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Let’s talk about mother-speaking (distribution world wide):

  1. Chinese: 982 Million
  2. Hindi: 460 Million
  3. English: 375 Million
  4. German: 105 Million

German mother language is “only” 25 % of the english, but do not forget them! (I skip the other languages, like hidi, spanish, and so on).

But do not let us look on the mother langage, as EN is only on the third place, which is really annoying (I guess), lets look on: Spoken:

  1. Eng: 1500 Mill. (Grats!)
  2. Chi: 1100 Mill.
  3. Ger: 185 Mill… (at least 10% of the english speaking).

Nevertheless this discussion should not state that some language is more important than others, and is never intended to.

If there is a demand for national-language-server, like Spanish (we germans (at least me) support your own Spanish servers).

And we want to make you (moreover Acti-Bliz) notice: There is maybe a small, but there is a group of Rolplayers who want a German-RP-Server.

At least Blizz underestimate the number of players (at all nations, all languages).
Then: Blizz underestimate the number of german players, who demand german Servers (origin we EU people should all play on EU (=english) Server, but we could avoid it)*
Now maybe they underestimate the amount of German RP players.**

*not that I or some other do not like the European Idea or want to seperate from the other. We simply want to play in our own language, as langauage / written form is the main transport way for MMORP-Games (hint: there is RP in the name!)…
** some of us already quit, because of not having Ger-RP-Servers / some do not even start playing (paying), because of that…

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As french, I fully support these german initiative on creation of localised RP servers!

The silence from blizzard is deafening.

@Alarna and german RP/Immersive players : you have my full support! :slight_smile:

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I agree with you, and your post is very sensible :slight_smile:
But some people are just getting a bit arrogant when this topic is discussed, so i had to point that out :+1:

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Numbers. Just take a look at the amount of DE-servers vs. other languages.

Culture. Germans - like French, I imagine - consume their media mostly in german (I know this is shifting in the younger gen). We have a strong scene of voice actors and translators, because we watch our media dubbed, not subbed like e.g. in scandinavia. Ofc one can argue if that is good or bad, but that argument should not be part of this discussion, as we’re not here to change the habits of a population, but want a service we pay for to respect the current environment it wants to earn money in.

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At this point, I would settle with a free transfers from DE-PvE to EN-RP-PvE.

:frowning:

Actually it’s 9 Realms :wink:, with Heartstriker (PvP) being the only one which is not layered.
Many RP players rather stopped their subscription than playing on english or non-RP overcrowded Realms.

Playing a game is done to have fun, to relax and not to strain old language skills or even have to learn these from scratch.

For role play it is even more essential to have a good understanding of the language since you want to adapt your dialect and choice of words to fit your character’s story.
You want to simply loose yourself in a fantasy world, which is extremely difficult if not impossible if you are not even able to understand the majority of the playerbase.

Considering the current Realms status, Germany is going to need another PvE Realm anyway.
What is the harm in having a german RP-PvE realm?
Many normal PvE players would go there as well, for the nice atmosphere, to passively experience RP, to play in smaller communities instead of this overcrowded anonym world right now.

The german discussion topics made clear that such realm does not have to be full by any means. Most of us would enjoy the choice of a small low population realm where players get to know each other as it was in the old days.

There is nothing to loose with such a realm but much to gain: a satisfied player base, long term customers (as RP players tend to create their own content) and new/returning players which simply do not want to play without role play realms in their mother tongue.

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Thanks my unknown friend! I’m really happy, that you have your own fr-server, despite the fact that there are no FR-RP-Server…

Oh thank you, normally my posts are more aggressive, but that might be due to speach limitation and (of couse I try to be friendly). Or is that only an ironic comment (in that case: I do not get the point)…

Ah, thanks for correcting me, I was not counting correct…

As I also state. Thats the fact. Even more for roleplaying, than for PvE… PvP alone does not depend on writing long storys. “Inc mine” or “4 Inc Farm” is also known for non english language players…

simply nodding.

Correct all German server feel to be overkrauted (thats a word play: german, cowd, full realms ==> overkrautet :slight_smile: ).

Correct. Full is more than the original™ classic feeling, what was promised.

There are plenty. Or at least there are some…

So now our CM is gone, but therefore we are coming (with our semibad english demand for GER-RP-Server) now to you.

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Overkrauted. LOL I like that word. (I speak almost as good German as English - none of them my mothertongue) And I’m sure going to shout: “Ach overkrautet Servers Heute noch mal!” when I log in tonight. Thanks!
And PS I support French and German PvE servers and one or more English one as well :goal_net:

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I’d be careful with that since it’s a derogatory term for germans that was in use in the two world wars.

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How on Azeroth can I bother anybody by yelling at my monitor? (Krauts = Cabbage(heads) was the derogatory term, not overkrautet which sounds almost like overcrowded => pure lingusistic fun.)

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