No PVP stats please!

[Bewarê-frostmane]

@Jito-turalyon

And I’ll give Blizzard the time of Beta to at least try to explore that, along with the community.

Do you mean to include the “live beta” after the actual beta in that “wait” of yours? Because these are the same essential problems for a 3rd expansion in a row. That’s not fine. There should be no need to wait any longer.
They just don’t want to solve those problems, because it goes against what their actions scream is what they’re aiming for.

@Bewarê-frostmane

Instead of assuming incompetence, this has been going on for too long already. One expansion, fine. But 3 expansions in a row? That shows there’s clear intent.

So as for that intent, you’ve gotta look at the effects. And the effects are twofold:

1. PvPers are basically arm-twisted to PvE for their gear, because of the huge differences in reward system efficacy.
2. PvP as a whole is made easier. Referring to both the trimming down of gameplay punishments (meaning you can’t really “choose wrong” like in the past, just less good) and a massive overflow of passives which has been a thing creeping up since Cata. This, with the differences in gear reward designs, leads to favoring PvEers much more than the ones only sticking to PvP.

So their intent seems very much to intentionally push PvE as the frontline for core gameplay, while rated PvP ends up as a stress relief with much less significance than it used to have, for those very same PvEers.

These effects have been increasing, not decreasing. It’ll increase in Shadowlands too, with even more external power systems which you’re locked to playing for most of your game time, because they’re putting in those time locks to what you can be using and punishments for swapping… whatever the hell it was called. Which you’ll need to keep adjusted to PvE to get the gear needed to PvP later on.