add brigante to that list xD (or replace by)
âwokescoldâ is a pejorative used to describe someone who scolds others for lacking a certain level of knowledge about social issues.
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True facts, that is even worse than text based communication, I mean, useful at itâs time, but I wouldnât exactly use it to send a message to the other halfâŚ!
I mean, I am nearing 50 at an alarming rate, but I prefer to think of myself as still mid 40âs, I think I have one year left until I have to submit to the depressing reality that I am in fact late forties, at which point I need to acquire a smoking jacket, a pipe, a subscription to The Times, and a map of the world where most of it is painted pink, possibly a shotgun and a pair of hunting houndsâŚ
Interesting. It perhaps means something else to the older generations, but generally using the word âwokeâ is seen as a sign of immaturity and political naivety. But hey, every day we learn something new, I shall add that to my vocabulary. Who am I kidding, I shall do so, and then forget it when talking to fair maidens in Nightclubâs of repute. Probably whilst slurring. Or being sick. Or trying to fight a statue.
I wouldnât say that Warcraft has a dependency on Christianity. Itâs clear that the early games were full of such references and inspiration, but as the universe has evolved over the years, many more influences have come along. Nordic, Chinese, Greek etc. I still believe that there are bits of Christianity left over and will most likely remain for the rest of the franchiseâs life. They may have washed over it to make it more ambiguous, but itâs still there, it would be very hard to erase it from the Church of the Light for example since that itself is very much inspired by the organisation of Christianity we know today.
Itâs okay to base things on Christian tales and folklore, and doing so does not exclude or alienate people of different faiths or of none.
Iâd encourage Blizzard to go further, as they use to in the past, and incorporate other religions and cultures. Take tasteful inspiration. Blizzard today does do this, Ardenweald is full of Irish folklore. But I feel like perhaps to be perceived as woke, theyâve deviated away from portraying forces such as the Light in their original, human-centric Christian-inspired perspective.
I wouldnât even say theyâve done that to be woke to be honest. There are people in the woke crowd who follow the Christian faith, and Christianity is not always at odds with progressive values, so whether they stick to the Lightâs Christian roots or deviate from them, either way itâs no indication of wokeness.
If anything, the change is probably to make it feel more distinct as an in-universe religion rather than a simple homage or even copy of the real-world Christian faith.
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I will shame the crap out of my autism every day of the week and you canât stop me.
Yes.
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Fair point, but you can make it unique without pasting over older lore I feel. For example Tyrâs significance in the human faith, they pretty much glossed over it in Legion as just a way to get the Holy paladin artefact. It was more about him being a Titan Keeper than a religious icon.
As for the âwokeâ thing. I guess the knee-jerk reaction these days is to assume the worst, and the reason behind all this is so the big corporation doesnât offend, else the potential market shrinks.
I think sometimes it isnât religion as such, as age. People who use the term âWokeâ tend to be of the younger generation, now people who use the term can be applying it amongst themselves, but also can be applying it to people of the previous generation, ( I donât think actual Boomers would care at all about it 
) Let us leave aside for a moment that the term âWokeâ and itâs derivatives is an absolute infantile and nonsensical use of language, and get back on track here.
You have various religious influences in WoW as someone pointed out just above, some of which predate Christianity to a large degree. I mean you have Titans, which were ancient Greek, I mean that -is- where we get the word from, you have Nordic/Saxon deities in there which we encounter in Northrend, so again, another religion system that predates Christianity, Ardenweald is heavily Celtic religion slanted, I mean you have Herne the Hunter and one of the Groves named after Tir Na Nog, which is -literally- the Celtic faithâs afterlife! Again, a religious system that predates Christianity. Tauren faith belongs to a religion that predates Christianity (Anyone who has seen the film âA man called Horseâ can testify to that, the Sun and the Moon were very important to them, massively so religiously, so that would be Anâshe and Muâsha then. Again, predates Christianity. The Concept of Loa, again, predates Christianity. So really, to say that Christianity needs to be in the game is more an aspect of ego, rather than logic. Itâs basically âMy Sky Daddy is more important than your Sky Daddyâ Which is never a good look.
Letâs remember here, that if you are bringing Christianity into the game, you are bringing two other religions into it also. You are bringing Judaism into it, because after all, Joshua ben Joseph, or Jesus as they call him now, -was- Jewish. He was never Christian, by definition there was no Christian faith until after his death. You are also introducing Islam into the game, because Jesus, the pivotal point of the Christian faith, was also revered as a prophet by the Muslim religion! (fun fact, Jesus is mentioned favourably in the Quâran 4 times as much as Mohammed is) I really donât see this as being helpful, and would if anything be insulting to three religions, when they could just -not- be insulting to them?
Truth be told, the current compassionate, altruistic and noble Titans are gods that are seen and interpreted with the lens of christianity - perfect, benevolent gods unable to conceive anything evil, and whose existence brings order to creation.
Even the idea of the titans as rational beings isnât the typical conception of the Greek gods.
I would add this is more of a New Testament upgrade than the whole of Christianity. The Old Testament is absolutely full of stories about both God and his chosen followers bringing chaos, war, and death to the world.
Come to think of it, itâs the figure of Jesus that many have come to associate with Christianity which many Christians encourage since the teachings of Jesus are much more palatable to us and our modern day sensibilities than someone like Moses going WorldStar on his own people for the great offense of losing faith.
People joke about Green Jesus (Thrall) but his story and role being that of a messiah brought a good balance of seriousness and comic hero cool to the world of Azeroth. There is a reason he used to be one of the most recognized faces of the franchise, along with Arthas.
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True, although a lot of that isnât so much a telling of his deeds, as it is hammering down the idea that he shoudnât be considered God.
I didnât know this before; but there was actually a fairly popular early Christian sect called Marcionism. They believed that the benevolent God as shown in the NT is an entirely seperate (and superior) diety to the more violent, callous and mercurial God from the OT.
Obiviously they thought that NT God was the true one, and OT God was not.
(I realize neither of these points has much to do with the original topic⌠But as a former Religious Studies student, I take every opportunity I can to nerd out about these things!)
Oh, yes, absolutely. I agree on that bit!
I didnât mind Thrall, but I think his Cataclysm storyline wasnât one of his strong points.
Here is humanity represented by western culture⌠and here is the rest of the world represented by this cacophony of monsters.
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Very true, he is a Prophet, but equally the same is true of Mohammed, it is emphatically stated that he is not God either, just the newest (and last, in that faithâs) prophet.
HoweverâŚ
Wow! You Nerd out on it! That is fascinating, I too had a Religious Studies education and I never heard of that Sect, That is some mad level stuff, So if they saw the NT God, as different to the OT God, which makes sense, I can dig that, as they do seem to have differing standpoints, to a massive degree, then how did that then work with The Adversary? Was it some weird triad or something? Which actually if you think about it, could make a lot of sense.
Iâm pretty sure Western culture is perfectly capable of spawning itâs own monsters, like, massively famously soâŚ
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ik ik, I was just taking a small jab at eurocentric fantasy design.
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Heh, fair enough! 
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I find Gnosticism (of which Marcionism seems to be a variant?) to be pretty interesting too; itâs an interesting way they tried to explain the discrepancies between the Old and New Testament God.
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shoutout to my boy Mani
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Gnosticism came in lots of great and tasty flavours for the masses, so it wouldnât surprise me if Marcionism came out of it or was influenced by that kind of mix of early Christian doctrine and Greek enlightenment.
Didnât spend a huge amount of time on it during my theology degree, sadly, despite it being very interesting.
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