No wotlk era servers = classic over and good bye for many people

Yes i agree, i also support wotlk era realms. Its a special expansion for many. Its a reason why wotlk private servers has been so popular for many years. Warmane etc…
Its nice to have wotlk as this trilogy. And not that interested in cata and mop and later on.

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  1. 10 man=25 man was the nail of 25man-raiding’s coffin
  2. the needed roles changed a lot: you need 2 tanks for 25 man and 2 tanks for 10 man, too. That results in a reduction of dps-spots
  3. you have to min-max a 10man to be successful: either caster-centric or melee-centric. And guess what it will be…
  4. it changed my beloved fcfs-ret to a holy plate-wearing rogue
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What do you mean wotlk will die? Will the wotlk servers become cata, or they gonna delete it?

We won’t have fresh cata servers? I want to experience the destroyed starting zones from the start. Never have done in the past.

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right now they will make woltk servers as cata servers as they done it with tbc → woltk.

So if you are woltk player and don’t want cata it will mean that you lose all

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What the did exactly? I don’t remember? Fresh cata servers? So all wotlk progress will be lost?

Not fresh, all data just will transfer to cata, so woltk will be no longer available

I am not opposed to Cataclysm. I just like TBC more.

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I played a destruction warlock my friend played a hunter

my friend would go from 0 to 100% on a pull in 0 seconds!

meanwhile I had to hard cast a soulfire to get my damage buff up before I could start to DPS ROLF awesome design

then demonology lock only became viable at the end of the expansion because of snapshotting and a bug in combination with a trinket from firelands exaulted rep! (it stayed this way until the end of the expansion)

warlock was dog :poop:

At the start of the expansion difficulty was a goal for dungeons which lead to the mass of LOW IQ players being unable to complete them , pulling packs of 5 mobs at a time using CC was required ! then difficulty was toned down a lot because people are stupid

boss mechanics in 5 mans that needed to be done, raid finder I believe was born ? and destruction of the old world

to name a few

Cu all “quitters” in a few weeks, you wont be gone for long :rofl:

We certainly won’t be gone for long if we can have our legacy servers for TBC and Wotlk. Perhaps you could join our cause instead of typing spite?

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I started playing hardcore and now i cannot play normal servers…There just isn’t juice in them knowing i can die and comeback. I do have chars in classic era and in wotlk. I intend to level my chars in cata and stop right after they are max level and go back to hardcore and/or era. I don’t feel cata is classic anymore although i loved it when it was first released. Was the last expansion i liked but now, hardcore just changed everything for me.

Welcome to my world :grin:

same will unsub when cata comes

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Blizzard promised us there will be era servers, but sadly this promise was pulled back on TBC. I said this will bite wrath lovers in couple years, wrath lovers like me.

Its feels really unfair that those who love vanilla are given everything they could desire. Those who want progressive classic moving to cata are also noticed, but those players who want Wrath are slapped to face by Blizzard and given the message that “We care, we listen”.

Its nice to be cared for and listened, would be better if i would feel like it. I love Wrath i have always loved Wrath and i wanna play wrath till end of days. There are many like me Why take it away from us? Like what is Blizzard thinking Wrath manics will do when they shut down the servers and force them to cata? level in cata to L85 and raid in cata just taking the L. No we will unsub and go back to the wrath private servers, private servers blizzard came to strike down with ban hammer so they can make official servers and take the money from them and after going through the effort you are really planning to just shut down the Wrath servers again and in couple months we see Wrath servers ramping up in popularity and Blizzard starting to complain how so many players prefer private servers. Its like Blizzard said themselfs Some like Retail, some like vanilla, but there are people who like neither. Those players who want TBC or WRATH and if Blizzard doesnt offer them someone else will. Why is it so hard to understand Blizz? There are many people who want wrath, and we feel angry and betrayed. Why do you not care about us? We have paid you montly sub during official Wrath and we will continue to do it if you just let us play Wrath. HECK im happy to pay the Wrath expansion cost + sub for official servers. For real Blizz pls wake up and see that the “no wrath only players exist” mantra you are saying to yourself couldnt be more wrong. Oh well this is my post that i fear nobody with the power to change will read and in couple months the official servers for the expansion i love will close and thats peace out for me.

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Oh, but they galdly accepted ToGC t9 patch where in original concept of item from previous raid tier being usefull and gradual raid progression from Classic died to new idea of increasing ilvl gaps and making extra difficulties, so only current raid tier matters.

They also accepted automated search system that is part of key Retail features that was introduced in ICC patch.

ICC patch is Wrath, not Retail.

What

you talk of? RDF? If yes. Was originally in Wrath. Has to be in Classic Wrath with same patch. Not before, not left out. #NoChanges!

GIVE US WRATH ERA SERVERS!

Nobody cares about your WOTLK, ruined by GDKP and inflation that was never seen before.

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Take care cu soon°

Feel free to provide a single post where a blizzard employee “promise” era servers for anything but vanilla.

Cause you know, to pull back a promise, you actually need to have made the promise to begin with.

OK let me explain my point. The change in the game direction Classic players often call Retail (technically WoW was retail the first day the first live realm was up) often happened not between expansion launches, but in last patch or patches of previous one as it was the case with Wrath. Blizzard and to be more precise Activision, wanted bigger auditory for WoW. So they went both ways and catered to casual (making 10ppl normals a facepalm easy, essentualy puggable content) and to hardcore they started making bosses having separate 25 HM difficulty with top loot, while keeping 10HM/25normal as a middle ground, although you can say 10 HM is a bit harder. This new approach was first tried in ToGC and then difficulty borders became even more apparent in ICC when another ilvl spike happened.

That killed vanilla model of gradual progression when previous raid tier gear in general was good for couple of tiers and some BiS even till the last tier of xpack. Not saying that this system was good, especially for the amount of loot we had to split between 40ppl, but it didn’t made previous tier obsolete as soon as new tier came out.

In original Wrath Ulduar was hit by this pretty hard as TOGC had bigger ilvl and was notably easier to organise and complete.

This is why late Wrath is the retail 1.0 in a nutshell. It differs from Classic model and brought raid logging like never before.

ICC just reinforced these notions and added RDF that made people never leaving Dalaran again, however in 2010 they also added 30% nerf while WoW had it’s first ever almost year long content draught. This is why ICC was finished almost by any casual and was liked by broad audience.

Cata on the other hand made raiding and even heroics harder in first patches. That caused most casual players who were used to easy puggable ToC and ICC with - 30% nerf to leave and a drop off subscriptions. That and only that is the reason many hate Cata, because they couldn’t lay back and still complete content like they did before. So Blizzard freaked out and lunged into extreme creating LFR in last patch of the xpack.