Non-roleplayer questions for roleplayers

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As the title states, I’m not a roleplayer. But I randomly had a question pop in to my head regarding the activity. Now to be clear, I know next to nothing about the rules and etiquette of roleplaying. But I can imagine that it’s not all that popular to make your character “The one”, the true hero etc.

If this is the case, or just in general. How do you as a roleplayer deal with how the player character is increasingly becoming more and more important in the story?

From Warlords of Draenor, Legion and now Battle for Azeroth.
The player character goes from being a random adventurer to a commander, a leader of their class faction. And now a hero of the Horde/Alliance helping to restore Azeroth.
Do you ignore it for the sake of not having forty “super awesome special class leaders”? or is there some way around it?

Additionally, how do you deal with the Allied races/new races. They’ve been dropped in from nowhere, completely new to their faction/conflict.
How do you make sense of a Kul’tiran druid becoming the class leader?

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You are absolutely spot on right. Imagine the following scenario, the mighty hero regaling people in a tavern, “And so then I struck Arthas down, ending the threat!” Someone coughs “Ahem, I think you’ll find it was I who killed Arthas” Someone else holds up a bit of paper “Well I have a bit of paper from my mother saying it was me what did it!”

Highly embarrassing. And to be honest, not great as RP goes. The essence of Roleplaying is just that, Playing a Role in the setting. That Role doesn’t have to be ‘The Hero’,
For the purposes of examples, I’ll use my character here, Wing Commander Brigante Summerisle, commander of a unit of Dragonhawk riders (Aka GM of the Sun Hawks :stuck_out_tongue: )

He is a hero ( small H) but not The Hero.

Simple answer is, you don’t, The Hero is game mechanics, in Lore Brigante never commanded the Unseen Path, some Hero did. Its best never to ascribe names to these people. Although, if you look carefully at the cinematic when the artefact weapons are drained, you can see who carries what in lore…
Your character advances differently than the Hero. The Hero has doe al these weird and wonderful things, Brigante’s progression and advancement in the last nine years has been different, Promotion from Ranger Lieutenant to Ranger Captain, Given command of his own Unit received medals and commendations, married, recently became a father, currently accused, though unproven, of colluding with Alliance forces in the wake of the incidence at Teldrassil. ( He totally did, The Sun Hawks flew to rescue Kaldorei children as Teldrassil Burned)

The way I see it is like this, you can insert your character into important happenings, without being The Hero, again, to use Brigante as an Example;
During TBC? He never went to Outlands, he was one of the Shattered Sun Offensive on Quel’danas, specifically, if you’ve ever done the Sunwell Bombing Quest, and as you fly on your Dragonhawk, a flight of Dragonhawk riders slide in to fly escort for you, and one of them shouts “We have your back Hero” Some unnamed elf rider. Yeah, Brigante was one of those dudes, never name checked, not a major feature, just someone who was -there- So whilst he never set eyes on Kil’Jaeden, he did in some small way, play a part in that war.

WotLK?: Yeah, he went to Northrend, most specifically to Orgrimms Hammer ( I think), in Icecrown. As you approach ICC if you look up or fly, you can see loads of Dragonhawk riders manically fighting Frostwyrms. Yep, he was one of those nameless faceless dudes. So again, he played a part in that war, but he never saw Arthas or entered the Citadel.

Cata? The Sun Hawks were mostly pursuing their own interests then, but did conduct operations against Twilight Hammer fliers and camps.

MoP Brigante and crew were actually in Pandaria when the Vale went Pow. It was a cross Guild DM’d event, Three Guilds if I remember right, we’d just spoken with this Jin-yu Waterspeaker who showed us a vision of a land of radiance and splendour, and suddenly it being scarred and blackened. In our arrogance (It was 3 entirely Belf guilds) we went “Ahh, he was showing us the Fall of Quel’thalas”

And then when we logged in the next day, and saw the changes Blizz had made to the Vale we were like “Oh, heck, -That’s- what he was showing us”
Brigante served on the Thunder Isle, but as a ground commander, after most of the Dragonhawks got shot down. He -saw- Lor’themar Theron charge into the Thunder King’s palace like a madman beserker, but he never spoke to him.
Joined the Revolution, fought some of Garrosh’s protodrake riders.

WoD? Eventually did some work with the Arrakoa, regarding how to fly those skies, provided air cover over Tanaan.

Legion? By now the Sun Hawks have their own particular nemesis who has been built up over the last four expansions, he has his own Nethership, We take it, and him down. So again, part of the War, but we never went to Argus.

BfA, Well, time will tell.

So you see you can involve your character in the Bigger picture, without having to be The Hero. You can be one of those background characters who helps, without being the one who kills the Big Bad.

It’s easier for Horde, We see where the Nightborne and Highborne Tauren came from. I’m probably not best placed to answer from Alliance side.

They what now? Blimey…I don’t know how to make sense of that one. Isn’t Malfurion still the leader?

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Thank you so much for your long reply, I really didn’t expect something this detailed and I really appreciate it.
So I guess the essence is that the story gameplay (quests etc that make you out to be special) is all separate from the story of the character you play?
I like that idea, the idea of just being some random person running around and taking part in amazing things. But never really being special themselves.

I’m starting to get curious about this roleplaying thing to be honest. It seems fun and interesting. Have to do some proper research though.

And I’m terribly sorry, I should’ve written this better:
How do you make sense of a Kul’tiran druid becoming the class leader?

I meant in terms of Legion when you become the Class order leader or whatever the title is. Seeing how storywise the Kul’tirans didn’t join the Alliance by that point.
Or a Zandalari paladin in the same situation really.

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It is great fun, tends to be busier at weekends and in the evenings, people use it as a fun way to wind down, after doing their WQ’s or Raids or what have you.

Oh right! I get what you mean… Well, its pretty much the same as not being ‘the Hero’

Its Game Mechanics, during Legion, your Kul’Tiran is on Kul’Tiras, dealing with their own problems, they will have noticed the skies flickering green and heard panicked rumours, but the Legion did not attack them directly.

So really, Legion for them, and the Zandalari is just game mechanics questing. I see what you mean, it will be very odd for my Nightborne Mage to get to Suramar only to have to earn the Sumaritans trust “Dudes, I -live- here!”
Sometimes you just have to go “Yeah, this is not what my character would have experienced in RP…”

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's a good question. RPing the leader of the class faction and commander is something hardly any RP-er does, Personally I pretend that these people canonically exist, I’m just not them and neither are you or anyone else that’s RPing. Basicallly in this sense they’re treated as faceless lore NPC’s by me

As someone with a handfull of characters I like to decide how ‘important’ the character is per character (basically choose what major events he was a part of, as either a combatant or non-combatant) and for older characters often base these of goals I completed OOCly for myself like for example the ability to smelt dark iron then farming enough to create the dark iron plate for transmog and added a story that explained the ability to smelt and work Dark Iron in this chars history, so that’s how I get around what the role the game is trying to force our characters in, I just make my own list of accomplishments which I try to keep sensible and canonically possible. This is especially true for AR’s where you basically have to spend some time in to think what events AR alts would have witnessed esp. because AR race history differentiates, Kul’tirans have links back to WC3 for example

Back to the canonical player character, gods in human(oid) form; It’s kind of a combination of ignoring and accepting, you ignore that it’s technically about you, but you accept that the canonical player character exists but isn’t the character you’re currently playing, which is simpler then it sounds

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Just be careful not to make a mundanely boring character, in their concerns of making a snowflake they make a bland character, what I enjoy the most and can appreciate the most is a list of weaknesses and strengths, tradeoffs that make sense and tie into the characters identity and/or history. So rather then saying “he’s average” say “he’s good at x and bad at y” allows for more dynamic

You don’t really. Like Brigante said;

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Thank you both for your brilliant responses. It seems like you both have a pretty good grasp on lore and what’s going on in the game.

That’s a good idea. I guess the temptation can often be that your character has seen everything and done it all. Or nothing at all.
You’re either the hero of the ages or a random farmer at halfhill.
Try to find a middle ground really.

So you try to keep what your character has done and seen as close to the lore as possible. So you don’t have a Tauren from outland with the arakkoa for no good reason.

So if I were to make a Zandalari (because they’re awesome) It would then be possible to place the origin of my character in Pandaria. Because of the Zandalari connection to the continent?`

And to both of you, I’m terribly sorry if this is boring for you. But I do very much appreciate you talking your time to answer these questions.

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No real need to worry about that, dont mind helping but responses wont be quick all the time, Brigante doesn’t mind being helpful either based on what I’ve seen from him so far

As for the tauren with the Arakoa example, its An unlikely combo and I’d personally avoid this scenario because its too unlikely in my eyes but if you know lore that proves otherwise then it could be fair game.

its moreso that the really batcrap things arent considered like IDK, a player playing a Naaru disguised as a whatever race they play or a paladin being able to control undead

I would say that yes, because the Zandalari canonically visited Pandaria, that part of content you could include in your Zandalari’s history if you would want it to be in there, it’d make for easy to write for content because what happened has already established and all you’d have to do is try and make a POV summaration of what your char saw of that and how it affected him

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You could, or if you find a group that has caught your interest, reach out and hear if an internship is possible :wink:

Personally I prefer a blank canvas char :slight_smile:
It stems a little from me being a RL RP’er, and the group often form your char based on your activity together.

It is also possible here, but my experince when it comes to online RP is that the roleplay community tend to be more focused on the development of their char than the group. ((don’t shoot me with this comment, merely an observation :expressionless:))

But I do know some groups out in World of Roleplayland are awesome in including others, so you could always ask for help to develop your char to fit with the group that has caught your interest :hugs:
That way you’ll also get the gist of what in appropriate in character development where you want to go :slight_smile:

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But I want to be Velen disguised as Gul’dan, but actually I’m a random fisherman from Stormwind, but in reality I’m the groundskeeper hiding from those meddling kids!
I do understand what you mean and I agree. The short of it is, try to keep it in the story and established universe. Don’t try to make yourself too special and stand out.

I did have another question that popped in to my head though. How did the Roleplaying community react to the whole Garrosh debacle? and now Sylvanas.
Seeing how you’re pretty much forced to pick a side (I guess you could go neutral from a character perspective?)

I can imagine those two story points made for some really interesting character choices/developments?

Thank you for the reply! Do you have a link or advice as to where to go to find some advice to developing a character story?
And is it possible to function on a roleplaying realm to actually do it outside of a group? I guess it would take a lot of work to try to integrate on a server. Especially now with all the Cross realm crap.
I’m starting to like the idea of a solitary character you see.

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I’m afraid I can’t really guide towards something that might fit with links, as I usually tend to follow the flow…
But many reads up on lore, and the tone them down or out of the picture :wink:

But if you google around you’ll be surprised how many sites, forums and guides there is, so I find it a bit difficult.

But on the Argent forum a lot of guides have been posted through the years, make a quick search in there :+1:

Of course it is, a lot of awesome people with a lot of drive are sometimes hosting open events with different theme :slight_smile:
This way you can sometimes be part of a group and still be yourself.

But random roleplay also happens, if you get called out by someone, jump in and play along :smile:

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That would depend on what you want with your char or what you feel fits most or what you think your char would do

As for how people work with it depends on them, what I decided for my char atleast was that he agreed Saurfang was out of line and opposed him thinking it was a capture mission, then helped Baine because he believed he was doing what was morally agreeable in the situation Sylvanas created, after learning Baine will probably be executed for this he’ll most likely pick the Rebel side, so that’s one of many routes that are not farfetched

Another route would be being a rebel or Sylvanas supporter all the way or not taking a side and staying out of or not being involved in whats going on, but most would probably have an opinion even if theyre staying out of it or arent involved, all options are viable

Its good that you can have a sense of humor about it, for the rest yeah try to keep it in the existing universe, reading Chronicles helps with comprehending that universe and how it works (there are a few YouTube read throughs of them)

As for standing out, if youre a good RPer and/or sociable and/or active then that’s bound to happen by itself (in a positive way). Never try to force it atleast but dont feel shy to be active if youre taking part of an event or just regular RP

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I see you already got some great answers here :grinning:
I’d just like to add that over time, I do feel it makes sense for the player character to become more powerful. They gain experience (with adventure in general, and fighting enemies), practice their combat techniques/spells & tactics, and might come across some powerful items along the way.

I do not mean “one-shot the Lich King” powerful, but perhaps you might face, say, FOUR bandits, and fight them all off, because of your skill and experience.

While leveling, I usually consider my quests to be my character’s assignments, either given to him by a mentor (some unnamed or lower-ranking class trainer or faction officer) or more like a bounty thing (“Good day, you honorable looking faction member. Say, I have a… murloc/kobold/spider/gnoll/whatever problem, and I would pay you, and/or give you this nice useful item, if you… make my problem go away.”).

As others have mentioned, my characters do not get their assignments from a faction leader or famous lore character. When one of my characters is, game-mechanically, a class order hall leader, I see myself more as an eager member of that order, not a/the leader.

As for allied races, I just try to stick to their lore (although there might not be much of it…).

  • Lightforged (draenei) - awesome!
    I understand they might find our faction war silly, and maybe they’ll just run around trying to find (& fight) demons or other dangerous, evil foes.
  • Void elves - a little creepy…
    I have some experience being shunned and distrusted, so I try to be friendly towards them, but they kind of are ticking timebombs…
  • Dark iron dwarves - I’ve heard bad things about them in the past…
    As with the void elves, I try to give them the benefit of the doubt… But I wouldn’t want the fate of the world (or the outcome of The Battle For Azeroth) resting on their dark, smoldering shoulders.
  • Kul Tirans - Glad to have them back in the Alliance.
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All these replies are absolutely fantastic. You’ve all given me so much to think about (And read up on)
And you’ve really gotten the creativity working, tons of ideas churning.

I guess the last question I have is; are there any Addons you recommend that might be helpful for roleplaying? Or is there a EU server you can recommend?

And if you some more general advice I’m more than happy to hear it!

I’m also curious as to if there’s any place I can find information on the average hight of the various races. Or just general information about them.
The only lore book I have is the first Chronicle book.

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I do, and will come to that in a bit, it’s a technique I use for my LARP characters as well.

Well, the Roleplay Realms aren’t cross realmed with the other realms, but are their own communities. Is it possible to get involved without belonging to a group/Guild, absolutely it is.

Oh heck yeah, I tend to go with “is my Racial Leader rebelling and taking their nation with them?” In which case heck yeah. This was easy during the Darkspear Rebellion, as it was clear when Lor’themar had had enough of Garrosh’s shiz. Instant the Region Lord Rebelled, so did Brigante. (Whilst we are pro-Horde, our first loyalty is always to the Regent Lord).
With the current situation it Is both and less trickier. He’s not the person Sylvanas sent out to hunt down Saurfang, especially after the rumours of his unit rescuing Alliance children from Teldrassil. The Regent Lord clearly is reaching the limit of his patience with Sylvanas’ antics, but equally, he is not going to confide this to some random Ranger Captain. He has advisors for that. The Instant he does act against Sylvanas (if he does, I’m trying not to give spoilers) then that is the point where Brigante will pick a side.

As it stands at the moment, he doesn’t even know that Saurfang is still alive, far as he knows, the old Orc died at Undercity. He is however becoming increasingly uncertain about Sylvanas’ leadership. She’s about 9/10 on the Garrosh scale right now.

MRP, TRP, and XRP are the ones people tend to use, and they are all compatible, allowing you to fill in character descriptions, surnames, titles and suchlike.
EU Server, I am going to sound biased, but Argent Dawn. Its the biggest and busiest, and a fair chunk of people migrated from the smaller realms. You can pretty much always find random RP. Maybe someone from one of the quieter realms can give an idea as to the perks of those?

As for creating characters, obviously there are the basics, so name and persona. But there are other things as well.

Do they have any living parents? If not, why not?

Any Siblings?

Wife, Children?

What motivates them? Fame, The Thrill of Adventure, Money? Patriotic duty? Religious fervour?

Are there any races, in their own Faction or the enemy one that they especially hate, conversely any they especially like?

What is their take on concepts like justice, honour and the law? Are these valuable qualities, or are they just speedbumps in the road of getting what you want?

Are they rich? poor? or the happy medium inbetween? How did they end up in that situation? An inheritance, were they stolen from or defrauded, was it by their own hard work?

What were they doing at the time of major world events, such as the Scourge, the Cataclysm, the Legion invasion?

If you can tick off those questions, then you’re already there, you have a backstory, their history, their family details, their character, whether they are generally ‘good’ , ‘Bad’ or ‘morally flexible’ whether they have any distaste or like for other nations. You’ve basically got everything you need to know, to be able to start playing your character in RP. The rest of it, will grow from the stories you tell with the other RP’ers you meet.

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Wow, there’s so much to take in there. But thank you for the list for writing a backstory! I really have to get to work there. Luckily I have some ideas. Of course want to try to avoid clichés. Well, at least too many.
And I need to figure out lore details more. And read up on the Zandalari. (Those guys are crazy tall, just noticed while standing shoulder to shoulder with a Blood Elf)

I’m honestly worried about writing too much. But when you’re roleplaying in the game, do you take notes of what you’re doing just to remember how it affects your character? so to keep it up to date?
Knowing myself I’d probably end up with a massive folder of notes…

I’ll take a look at Argent Dawn as well. I’ve seen that it’s actually listed as full. Which is a very good sign!

But one question that might be a little weird. Are there “rules”/guidelines for what mounts to use?
I’m thinking it would be a bit weird to run around on Invincible or Ashes etc.
Though personally I’m a big fan of the Brown Goat. Which, I guess doesn’t conflict too much with lore.

I can imagine the greatest challenge of all of this will be to actually level up a character all over again. But heyho, it’ll give me the Heritage armour. so there’s that

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Can’t wait to unlock my Zandalari, cliched yeah, but going druid because…Dinosaurs maaan! But yeah,they are very tall, a male blood elf is around 6 foot tall, so Imagine the height of a Zandalari…

Do you mean in your RP Profile o TRP/MRP or whatever, or in /Say, when RPing?

I do if they are things I am likely to forget, like complicated names, or appointment dates. You don’t have to, I just find it useful having a notepad by me in case I want to. Its useful for remembering names you have given family members to start with as well, after a short while you’ll just remember them, but to start with it can help.

Not a weird question, its a good un’. I tend to go with, if its a racial mount, or something like a goat or even a bear, then, fair enough. I mean my Guild use Dragonhawks, and Wyverns for those who have not yet bonded with a Dragonhawk. Hawkstriders when close to Silvermoon, if in Orgrimmar, we will hire Wolves, we want to transport heavy goods? We’ll hire a Kodo. But that’s because we are all pretty ‘normal’ Elves, we all have unique skillsets, but we’re not DK’s or DH’s or anything.

Basically think about what makes sense for your character to ride; A Light Forged Draenei is not at all likely to ride a Frostwyrm, nor a Demon Hunter to ride an Argent Tournament Charger. Tauren in a Gyrocopter? Weird, but possible, perhaps there is some interesting character reason for it. I mean you’re not going to go wrong with a Goat, I mean its a Goat, Not some mystical eldritch horror…It’s a -goat-. You’d be fine with that.

That is what I am clinging to as well, once I unlock Zandalari (I am so slack at Rep Grinding) That plus the joy of gradually gaining the newer Dino Forms…

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If a male blood elf is about 6 foot a male Zandalari got to be, what? 9 even 10? Jesus that’s tall…

I mean in the Addon/RP profile. I have this tendency that whenever I start writing something it quickly becomes a short story or damn close to a novel. You want people to know your character, not take them on an adventure with Frodo :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s a good tip to use it to remember stuff. At least until you’ve committed it to memory. Or note down Key events and work out how exactly it’ll develop your character.

You know it’s getting serious when the 10 foot tall Zandalari Paladin decked out in heavy plate armour and a massive two handed mace is charging you on a goat. That’s a guy means business!

Those Zandalari druid forms are insanely cool. And I think the heritage armour is alright. So I guess it’s going to be a lot of dungeons in my immediate future…

But I do like how you’re going through all the steps with different mounts and occasions. What would make sense in the setting etc.
Is there a reason why you don’t have DKs or DHs in your group?
Is there some social dynamic in the RP community with classes like:
Death Knights
Daemon Hunters
Warlocks
Shadow priests?

Or are there any special dynamics between different races? Like Undead and goblins for example. That I need to be aware of?

I mean, in a realistic world, even a world such as Azeroth. I can imagine people aren’t too trusting when it comes to those classes/races.

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There was very recently a post in this forum section about “Which RP server to join”, might be worth a peek.
I’ll briefly recap what I said there:
I haven’t played on Argent Dawn, but I think Brigante summed it up nicely. An excellent choice if you want high population and very accessible RP, I think.

However, since I don’t know your preferred RP “density”, I’ll shamelessly and truthfully advertise the connected Moonglade / Steamwheedle Cartel / The Sha’tar realms.

The population on these realms is nowhere near that of Argent Dawn, but I think we have a nice little RP community going. /Join LookingForRP to chat with other online roleplayers. That way, in the late afternoon and evening - despite the low realm population - there’s usually always RPers “within reach”.
Also, with the LookingForRP BattleTag community, you can chat with other roleplayers regardless of what realms their characters are on.
The Sha’glade Cartel has seen some moderately high forum activity lately, where night elves have revived an old monthly realm tradition: Watching the New Moon rise.
In addition, there have been some open RP events lately, including a couple of faction-neutral ones, which were very interesting and exciting.

Well. That wasn’t ‘briefly’ at all!

TL;DR?
Argent Dawn full of RPers,
The Sha’glade Cartel less full, but still nice realms to RP on, unless you want RP all the time…

Oh, shoot, you guys wrote more while I wrote this!

More 2 coppers from me, then:

I try to keep my MRP profiles short, basically just writing things that the character model doesn’t show; accent, smell, posture… Little things.

The bulk of character info, I have in a mobile app spreadsheet… Because I’m a nurd :eyeglasses:

Regarding certain classes/races…
There are good RP guides on YouTube, and on the (old?) forum but in short:

Some races have strong ties with nature (druidic night elves & the Tauren, and thus may dislike undead & death knights.

Some classes/races are downright dangerous because of the powers that make them what they are (void elves - & shadow priests, I guess - warlocks, demon hunters), and most ‘normal’ people might want to stay away from these.

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Hah, I know exactly what you mean, as you will have seen from my posting style, I never use one word where ten will do :smiley: It’s not helped that I write fiction and narrate audiobooks so I have a tendency to ramble, this said, I always think less is more in your Addon profile, more than a paragraph can lose people’s attention, for example here is Brigante’s.

“An unusually short male elf, standing only 5’5”, Brigante nonetheless has a muscular and wiry physique, clearly having lived a warlike life of some sort, his eyes have crows feet wrinkles around them, and his left one several scars around them, nonetheless, both his eyes and grin generally show a sense of natural good humour. Perhaps to compensate for his height, his hair is in a topknot, braided with both small silver arrowhead trinkets, and also smaller Dragonhawk feathers. Whilst he seems in generally good health, he usually walks with the aid of an engraved bone cane, without which he has a distinct limp in his left leg. His voice is fairly melodious, with a slightly teasing or friendly mocking tone to it."

Basically it gives people what they can see, just by looking at him, the rest of it, his history, where the scars came from, why he has a limp, what type of creature the bone for his cane came from, what the symbolism of the silver arrowhead trinkets and feathers have, well, that’s all things they would have to find out in Roleplay.

I never actually put his history on his Addon Profile, just that above. Because no one can -see- your history by looking at you. From the above, you can hazard a really good -guess- that Brigante is some form of soldier, but you don’t know for certain till you strike up a conversation. I’d avoid going over a paragraph and a half, personally. That is however just my opinion.

Which one? The Paladin, or the Goat? :smiley:

Yeah, there is, the reason is basically that my Guild is entirely based on the concept of Dragonhawk Riders, there are Alliance rival guilds who fly Gryphons and Gyro’s but clearly we are the best.

Thing with Dragonhawks is that they breathe fire, they kill at range generally. That isn’t going to satisfy a Death Knight’s need to cause pain directly, and also, I can’t imagine the Dragonhawk would be a) Comfortable with a thing that smells of death on their back, or b) able to form a deep emotional bond with a Killing machine that cannot form emotional bonds…

Demon Hunters? Well, I want to say the obvious…‘They’re Blind! You can’t be Aerial Cavalry if you can’t see where you’re going!’ But we now know that they -can- see, but just in a different way. Thing is, unless we are fighting Demons, that really isn’t going to help them much. They’d be relying upon the Dragonhawk to spot and react to mundane targets, at which point, we might as well have just brought the Dragonhawk on its own… That plus, well they have a Demon inside them! A Dragonhawk is not going to like that, any more than any normal person would.
So that’s why we decline those two types, we allow Warlocks as long as they do not summon Demons (Not that they would do much good n Aerial missions anyway :smiley: )

How accepting races are of different classes is pretty much down to the races involved. Logically people should always be wary of Death Knights, though there are some like Thassarian, who are trusted enough to be given field command of living Alliance units (At the battle of Andorhal, and later in Northrend), but generally? They are scary…

Demon Hunters are trickier. To both Kaldorei and Sin’dorei they represent bad times for their people. Illidan for the Kaldorei, and Kael’thas for the Sin’dorei.

They have -Demons- inside them. Its like trusting a person with a primed grenade in their hand who goes “No, trust me, I’ve got this firmly in my hand, it won’t go off” then they fall down some steps and the grenade goes off /Demon takes over.

Warlocks are trickier. We do see in the ‘War Crimes’ Novel, that Varian Wrynn is perfectly happy with having Alliance Warlock troops, summoning Demons and all. We know the Blood Elves are -pretty- OK with it, the Forsaken couldn’t give two hoots, and the Orcs have a kind of love/hate relationship with Warlocks.

Everyone else seems to view them as a necessary Evil.

Shadow Priests are not the same as Void Elves, and most cultures including the Blood Elves still accept them. Fun fact, There is one person in the Factions who is shown to use Shadow Priest Magic, and that is Anduin Wrynn.

A lot of it comes down to the culture.

That comes down a lot to characters, and how they react. Brigante has no problem with Darkspear Trolls (The Darkspear never warred on the Elves) will be -very- cautious around Zandalari, he has killed a fair few of them, but he loathes Amani Trolls and will do everything he can to assure their destruction.

It’s about preparing your response, a Green skinned Orc gives Brigante the “Huh, you elves are pathetic and weak” line, he just responds with, “And less than a quarter of our race managed to invade and take over your planet? And -how- many Wars have Orcs won against Elves on -this- world alone?”

You just have to figure out how much is the character being unpleasant.

I’m trying to think, but off the top of my head;

Humans and Worgen do not like Forsaken and vice versa.
Gnomes and Goblins are locked in a technological arms race.
Blood Elves and Void Elves are highly unlikely to get on well.
Light Forged Draenei and Void Elves are unlikely to get on well.
Nightborne are unlikely to get on with Kaldorei/Night Elves.
There may possibly be bad blood between the Blood Elves and Zandalari, as they did fight each other on the Isle of Thunder.

It really comes down to character motivation. Does Brigante hate Darkspear? No, he has several Darkspear Friends, does he hate Zandalari, not really, they were an enemy to be killed, he can bury the hatchet if they can, does he hate Amani. Yes. All of the Yes. War to the Knife with them! Extermination…

So it -really- is down to what your character thinks, and why. Why does Brigante hate Amani? He’s a Farstrider, he lost a lot of good friends against the Amani in the aftermath of the Troll Wars, in hideous ways, it was a savage Vietnam-esque war on both sides.

But that is all things that will come out of your backstory and history.

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Personally I’d say TRP, Brigante’s mentioned ones are all good but personally TRP brings the most features and is relatively user friendly. As for server, if you have no other RP-ers you know who you’d like to join who are already on a server, my best bet would be AD simply because they have the most players which means more shots at finding people to RP with. If you want to play together with people who are on another server, I’d say join that server.

As for the RP profile of a character. If you’re uncertain, try to go for just a physical description. It’ll allow you to be a bit more flexible with your char because not everything has been set in stone except for appearance.

Brigante gave some good points to think about tho in his response.

This is why I adviced with go for a physical appearance first, everything that’s not appearance can be regarded as info the other side doesn’t really need to know before initiating contact with you. Another tip is just windowshop other people’s profiles to get a hang of what information is usefull and what styles you would like. History isn’t necesarily mandatory to include in a description but it helps you if you have a general idea of what you want the history to be and what values it has given your character in the present.

I’m not certain how others do it, but for me when I see mounts or weapons that are technically canonically major weapons or mounts I just pretend they’re not that weapon or that mount.

Most people will tolerate it as long as you don’t go “yeah no this is actually Arthas’ former horse; Invincible”

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