A gal gotta do what a gal gotta do, expose em Bloodelves. 
So to summarise what weāve learned here:
Canāt believe thereās so many renards that actually care about raiding and forget that blizz even describes what an RP server is for you before you select the server.
āBut Grug think not fair people need read for play gameā
OP, Kelduril, Athramus & Any1 else defending this odd āwe need OOCers for the lifeblood of the server!ā are simply cvcks.
Also Vaxir has a ten incher that grows a centimetre every time they can spin something to be about how hard things are for them
This has been your thread rundown folks.
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No attempt at a jab at all. Just a joke, I know RPers do mythic+ too, and I never bought into the misconception that RPers are bad at the game. Theyāre just like anyone else for that matter.
Nope, Iām saying itās a great way to make sure no one will ever try to RP. If people were as hostile back then, Iād probably never have gotten into RP myself. The community eventually bleeds dry because no one plays WoW forever. People move on and old RPers quit, for new ones (with or without experience) to come in and take their place. Thatās how a community stays healthy.
This āGET OUTā attitude is nothing but gate keeping, itāll eventually dry the pool out. Itās just uninviting to anyone.
These are not substitutes for raiding with a guild, thatās a completely different social experience. I too would prefer to raid in a mythic progression guild with only RPers, but thatās not realistic, the pool of players is just too small for that.
RP servers do not only serve āRP mealsā, you can PvP and PvE on them too, and thereās nothing in the rules stating you cannot. The rules do not state you have to RP either, but only to be respectful of RPers.
Itās like a restaurant that serves Italian food, but also has some Spanish meals. Nothing wrong with people coming for just the Spanish meals so long as they are behaved.
Misbehaving guests should be removed.
What does this picture even mean?
You might not have need for them, but my point is that the majority of players contribute to the server in a positive way. I love role playing, but I am still a raider first. If you wanted all OOCers out, I would most likely leave too or be a lot less active in RP than I am. I am sure I am not alone in this, a lot of RPers are also in a raiding guild on this realm.
People who disrupt RP on purpose are obviously bad, no discussion. Blizzard SHOULD act harder against them. People who have offensive names should be dealt with too, but you would be surprised how often just a friendly whisper informing them of the rules can be. Most people arenāt out to ruin your fun, just try being nice. Most people who join my guilds with RP unfriendly names, are usually more than happy to rename themselves.
I find that āRP or dieā extremely hostile to my role playing experience too. I always thought of role playing as an inclusive club happy to try and get people into it.
There is nothing to justify, they are justified in playing here, so long as they follow the rules.
Not per se, and take it from me that no one just rolls on a RP server ājust becauseā, they usually got a reason for coming here (joining a guild, friends, etc)
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actually dont bother; itās already āpost wild statementā
everyone disagrees and says why
āno ur not listening!!!ā
we are, here is where we say why we are listening and why its not accurate
ālistennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnā
its getting old
and tbh; use the āyeah its an italian restaurant - BUT ALSO SERVES SPANISH FOOD SOOOOOOOā argument. thereās only one roleplaying server per REGION that is even remotely populated. why do you people just love ordering hamburgers in a gourmet restaurant
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I really donāt feel your post warrants a response, but fine.
A lot of non-role players are aware of role players and their desire to put together nice sets for RP. RPers also do this of course, but thereās also quite a few non-RPers who run old raids and dungeons for low level BoEs with interesting looks (not just trashy ones) and sell them on the market, for example.
Even RPers engage in PvE and PvP content, such requires flasks, potions and other consumables. Non RPers farm materials and put them on the AH, but also consumables. More supply means prices are less in flux, which benefits you too if you are a RPer who likes to engage in that type of content.
This is self evident I think. Not all RPers do PvE raids, and raiding guilds arenāt all the same. Some are more active than others, some have more ambitious goals than others. Thereās probably not enough RPers to keep a variety of guilds going, so having non-RPers means more choices for RPers that raid.
RPers that also want to raid might be less likely to stick around or be as active on this realm if those options werenāt available to them.
Lastly, I think every non-RPer is a potential RPer that doesnāt know it yet. Iāve met MANY people, and while itās all anecdotal of course and we have no real statistics, I know a pretty sizable portion of people got into RP by being exposed to it on this realm. Theyād never have tried it without having seen it.
Reasons for that vary:
- They just donāt know it exists at all.
- They think itās dorky and have no interest in trying, so seeing what it actually is changes their mind.
- They think itās too intimidating, but once seeing it feel more comfortable trying.
- They meet a nice RPer who tells them about it and is willing to take them under their wing.
- They find RPers to be nice and inviting individuals and are curious to find out more.
Hope you can at least see Iām arguing in good faith. I am a role player, I spend most of my time RPing when I am not raiding or pushing keys with my team. This would never have happened if I hadnāt come here, and while you might think I do not matter, every person less makes the realm just slightly more empty.
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Your tone is always incredibly aggressive and I feel youāre not looking to actually have a discussion. You were asking things I already answered before.
Thatās fine if you want to think that, but I like to think every RPer matters on this server. Thereās really not that many of us when you think about it. AD is the only populated RP server, and even then itās not enough to fill a realm to capacity.
Non-RPers are a lesser evil. Having no non-RPers would also cause a diminish of people who RP, or might RP, and thus lower the amount of RPers further.
Griefers should GTFO, non-RPers arenāt an issue.
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If youāre a RPer (or willing to get into it) then this āhostileā attitude shouldnāt even affect you as itās not directed towards you. People are welcome to AD so long as they RP, which the server is meant for. I am not sure in how many different ways this can be explainedā¦ perhaps we should try hand gestures or binary.
Mythic raiders are already are very small <1% of the playerbase. Do you really think any serious RPers give the slightest of craps about mythic raids? I donāt. And pretty much every single RPer Iāve interacted with doesnāt either. While I donāt mind some mythic boss kills, I really couldnāt give one single damn about CE.
Once again, you completely miss the point cause it seems you have the intellectual capabilties and timespan of a rock. Nobody ever said that RPers arenāt allowed to partake in PvP or PvE. They just need to RPā¦ which is what the server is meant for.
In addition to in-game policies and rules, thereās also a phrase on WoWpedia which states the following:
- Stay in character in /say, /yell, in emotes, or any other channel used for roleplaying.
Which basically pushes and incentivises people that have joined a RP server to actually give RP a tryā¦ because I can see zero (0) reasons why someone would willingly join a RP server without the intention to RP. There is literally nothing to be gained. The whole āmuh frendz are on AD xDDā is irrelevant with CRZ.
Iām pretty sure that murdering someone for being on the wrong realm isnāt the answer. But OOCers are welcome to join the club provided they RP, seeing as that is what the server is meant for, as explained before.
They are justified if they RP, otherwise 
As stated, completely irrelevant argument with the addition of CRZ that was introduced many expansions ago. Unless youāre a mythic raider, but serious mythic raiders donāt choose a RP realm unless theyāre illiterate or with the purpose to annoy RPers.
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no it isnāt, up until my last two [which were teetering on the aggressive side since you failed to actually provide any valid answers to the questions beyond āthey helpā] i was, as you said, arguing in good faith
You have never joined a club or any kind of group and found the experience daunting even when people were being inviting? A club of people being hostile to anyone who isnāt part of their club already is not going to make someone feel like trying it.
This <1% statistic is a myth, the vast majority of PvE players are mythic raiders. The amount of people who CLEAR mythic is <1% (though this varies per tier) Loads of serious RPers care about raiding mythics in the evening. I know this cause thereās always quite a few RPers in any mythic guild Iāve been in. The best guild on this server, Epoch, has loads of RPers in the progression team, perhaps even 50%.
CRZ is not a good argument, that only works for pug content.
RP servers arenāt meant for RP, they just have extra rules to facilitate it. Nowhere does it state at any point in the rules that you MUST engage in role play.
Thatās a great soundbite (except in text), love the use of emojis, but no, thereās no rule demanding you engage in RP. The rules only state you musnāt disrupt it (like using /say for non-RP activities.)
We just have to agree to disagree on this topic then.
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??? ??? ???
I wont even bother reading the rest, jesus christ.
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The majority of PvE focused players will eventually step into mythic at some point, thatās just a fact. Heroic isnāt tuned very hard and the first few bosses of mythic tend to be as difficult or easier than heroic bosses. Mythic raiders arenāt an exclusive club of people who get cutting edge.
Quote or find me anywhere that states they are and Iāll concede this. RP servers are just regular servers with a couple of extra naming rules and chat rules. There is no obligation or requirement to RP here, it just is there to facilitate it for those who want to.
In fact, you could also RP on a non-RP realm, but thereās no etiquette there to facilitate it.
Surely you understand that?
Actually Iāll post one more thing regarding this whole debacle.
Imagine going to an Italian restaurant to order food that isnāt even Italian 
Youāve clearly never gone to a Chinese restaurant, considering the majority of them also serve Vietnamese, Indonesian and sometimes even Thai and Indian food.
The number of times Iāve seen RPers break this rule is actually crazy when you consider those RPers also tend to spout about roleplay server integrity.
Roleplayers OOCing on the roof of an inn while youāre trying to RP in it is even more annoying than non-RPers OOCing.
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Roleplaying servers are for roleplaying focused players. PvE servers are for PvE focused players. PvP servers are for PvP focused players. If you donāt roleplay on a roleplaying server, then 
. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
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Historically, most top tier PvE guilds have come from PvP servers, but PvP servers no longer exist. All servers in the game have one thing in common: they are for playing the game. Argent Dawn is no exception.
The only thing that makes RP servers unique is that they have additional rules regarding chat and names. Nothing else. Non-RPers are just as welcome on this realm as anyone else if they follow the rules. There is no rule stating you must partake, ANYWHERE.
ps: Iām a huge advocate of a āRP modeā, which anyone can enable on any server. This would be a phase just for people with it on, and would work across all servers, with cross-realm zones. You would be unable to do quests, queue for content, or anything while in this mode (to dissuade people from using it when not RPing.)
I feel like this would help everyone.
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i disagree
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Why are you here then, if not to RP on an RP server?
Iād say Iām disappointed but Iād be lying quite profusely.