Non-RPers don't help servers, they destroy servers

[Obilot-argent-dawn (Obilot)]

@Lupús-argent-dawn

A lot of the role-playing scene stopped playing WoW too.

Partially down to sh*t lore.

Yes, that plays a part too. BfA is garbage. Cataclysm was garbage too. It was less noticeable in WoD because you could ignore the lore 100%.

@Alryette-argent-dawn

1: Community factions stop getting along. Whether due to someone wanting to check RP and it’s quality, interpersonal bickering or just straight up people being awful this is where it begins. People barb, troll, attack, etc., but it always starts here.
2: The exodus begins with a few players, some minor but several major GLs or community figures. Most are minor but some either leave the game or change servers. At this point in side a ‘dominant’ side between RP factions is established and things begin to increase.
3: Exodus intensifies, due to a number of factors (expansion lulls, bad content, community lore or inter-faction conflict) and it begins to affect both/all sides. At this point some portions of the community, be it any faction or ‘side’ become denoted as toxic.
4: The OOCers begin trolling for disruption’s sake. Whether it’s to piss off the RPers, or for ‘the good vibes’ it happens. At this time the negativity rather spreads and people begin disrupting each other’s RP.
5: Most of the RPers have formed their exodus for ‘greener pastures’ and the OOCers become VERY noticeable. The ‘toxic’ elements often remain, and are the last to leave.
6: Almost all RPers are gone now. Server is an OOC server. Eventually the OOCers, seeing the Low Pop, will transfer to other servers roughly 2-3 months down the line.

Yes, that is how it goes.

[Scrappy-argent-dawn]

i can feel the depression in ur messages obilot is everything ok hun xx

[Obilot-argent-dawn (Obilot)]

I’m fine.

[Elyrius-argent-dawn]

@Obilot-argent-dawn

A lot of the role-playing scene stopped playing WoW too.

Partially down to sh*t lore.

And now we have BfA The worst it has ever been (sorry for offtopic)

Yes, that plays a part too. BfA is garbage. Cataclysm was garbage too. It was less noticeable in WoD because you could ignore the lore 100%.

At least we’ll probably be able to ignore most of the lore in Shadowlands too when it concerns roleplay

The WoD golden age… part two?

[Zagkush-argent-dawn]

@Khalgosh-golemagg

I’ve rarely seen someone getting griefed who didn’t respond in a measure that warranted said griefing. You can see it all over this forum. Posters are very aggressive and I have a hard time believing they are innocent victims.

So we rpers should just keep quiet and let the griefing continue? Or either the bully who wants exactly that or you don’t have any idea how bullying works, staying quiet and not doing anything will only allow bullies/griefers to keep at it, I know, I have been through bullying in middle school so I know exactly what I speak of.

[Leíá-argent-dawn (Leíá)]

That is a…very good take actually.

Where does RP go for Shadowlands? Unless, we just pop in there for one patch and leave Tyrande and Sylvanas to battle it out and then we come home?

[Scrappy-argent-dawn]

im very excited for shadowlands rp-wise honestly

the fact that the story is in an area that people at our character’s levels wouldn’t be able to access, we can focus on personal and guild storylines 100% of the time

it’s going to be so fun

[Karyïn-argent-dawn]

I can only speak for myself and the grouping I’m with… But we’re not crossing over to the Shadowlands.
Instead we’re looking to get engaged and perhaps host some arcs for Azeroth, around themes that are still happening on our little world.
For example: the Scourge that will be rolling around again.
I know it is a fantasy game, but going to the realm of the dead just seems as weird to roleplay out.

[Kinoro-argent-dawn]

Earthen Ring was the realm I made my first ever character on.

Around the time of Wotlk I met a group of RP’ers who came to the realm from AD.
They told me about this promised land of RP where street flourish with life and people loved to tell stories for others. I decided to make a character on this realm so, never have I regret that decision.

Did OOC’ers have any play in my decision? not really, though I still think they should get lost from all RP realms.

[Scrappy-argent-dawn]

@Karyïn-argent-dawn

Instead we’re looking to get engaged and perhaps host some arcs for Azeroth, around themes that are still happening on our little world.
For example: the Scourge that will be rolling around again.

that’s a fantastic idea, i think a lot of guilds within pcu will be doing that sort of thing as well

i rly do love smaller conflict plots

[Faelyda-argent-dawn]

@Diamantia-argent-dawn

Happy reminder that Faelyda, who wants OOCers around, doesn’t want non-raiders in their raids.

Do you want non-RPers (not griefers, because we all agree those should get out) in your guild or events? Because my raids are not much different to your RP events. Even in RP you choose who to engage with and I am sure there are forms of RP or even RPers you prefer not to RP with.

I would prefer not to PvE with someone like you, but I have no issue with you doing your thing.

[Scrappy-argent-dawn]

let me in the raid

[Rynore-argent-dawn]

[A-RP] Tavern Nights!

Link curve

[Koiffen-argent-dawn (Koiffen)]

Yeah, I’m sorry, but if you don’t have an AA page with at least 1+ year of posting stories, don’t bother applying to my RP group.

[Croecell-argent-dawn (Croecell)]

curses

That means I’m out because I’m terrible at updating AA (haven’t done it since making an account)

[Diamantia-argent-dawn]

@Faelyda-argent-dawn

@Diamantia-argent-dawn

Happy reminder that Faelyda, who wants OOCers around, doesn’t want non-raiders in their raids.

Do you want non-RPers (not griefers, because we all agree those should get out) in your guild or events? Because my raids are not much different to your RP events. Even in RP you choose who to engage with and I am sure there are forms of RP or even RPers you prefer not to RP with.

I would prefer not to PvE with someone like you, but I have no issue with you doing your thing.

No. I don’t want OOCers in my events. I don’t want OOCers in this realm either. I find them extremely disruptive to the activities.

Just like how you don’t want non-raiders in your raid.

But you keep promoting them. And when your argument is thrown against you, you suddenly change your tune.

So, I am going to take this as a “I concede your point that OOCers should not be part of an RP realm.”

If not…
Looking forward to joining your raid team to experience the environment and observe while you do all this work for my amusement.

[Scrappy-argent-dawn]

@Croecell-argent-dawn

That means I’m out because I’m terrible at updating AA (haven’t done it since making an account)

mines entirely blank dont sweat

[Faelyda-argent-dawn]

Your argument is a false equivalency. Organized raids are just like organized events, you can be more selective on who joins those and who doesn’t. Just like you expect anyone who joins an event to partake, so do I expect people who join a mythic raid to partake.

You aren’t hurt by an OOCer who doesn’t grief, they are just as big a nuisance as role players who are going about their business playing the game. Griefers will always come to this realm to make fun of role players, no matter what you do. Telling the people who do not RP but do no grief to leave is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Grievers are a big issue, we all agree on this. They ruin events, disrupt people trying to RP casually and are overall a huge nuisance.

But if the OOCers leave, you will still have regular RPers going about their business in the trade district, Boralus and so on. You would still have the same issue.

[Diamantia-argent-dawn]

@Faelyda-argent-dawn

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So, when can I join that raid?

[Mizikerion-argent-dawn]

it’s okay Scrappy you can raid with me Naxxramus this evening sounds good XD