Its the same annoying crap at the start of each expansion.
Please stop making the dungeon finder ilevel requirement only fractionally below normal gear drops.
Normal gear being 3 ilevels above the requirement means you need to fill virtually every slot with normal gear ilevel or better. I assume Blizzard are aware of this, but if not, there are 16 gear slots in WoW, and dungeon drops are highly rng dependant. Spamming normals, which are almost entirely trivial, to try and eke out the last few ilevels only to see multiple consecutive drops in slots you already have at the requisite ilevel, is really bloody annoying. Either buff normal loot 5 ilevels, or lower than requirement for HC by 5. Either way, you should not have the gap so small and make this grind needlessly frustrating.
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it is to slow players down.
but anyways you can still just group by lfg and run to the dungeon without requirements
5 Dungeons and counting without a single fing upgrade, last 2 no drops at all. Spamming mindlessly easy dungeons to eke out 2 more ilevels and completely at the mercy of rng. Please change this stupid system.
You could just find or start a HC group in the premade group finder, what the rest of us did ^^ no reason to spam Normals mindlessly.
You can still enter HC’s like you do mythics, no ilvl requirement then.
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Its a lot less convenient, and the fact that you can do this is not an excuse for the tiny gap between normal dungeon finder ilevel and the heroic dungeon finder ilevel.
Ah, the usual BS that amounts to “I dont wanna put in any kind of effort that is signing up to a dungeon, and having to go there”
If you insist on using LFD tool, accept the rules and quit your crying.
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Being a condescending dick isnt an argument. LFD is meant to be there for convenience, the unreasonably small gap between normal loot drops and the heroic ilevel requirement is wildly inconvenient.
Why should this be the case? Curiously, you give no good argument at all. I will help you out. There is no good argument. If the requirement was to complete all dungeons on normal, thats fine. Its something you can do reliably without having to rely on the loot lottery. The requirement being that you need to fill out nearly every item slot with the gear obtainable whilst you are locked out of HCs, and gearing up to that degree being an annoying rng crapshoot, is obviously unreasonable.
But by all means, carry on insulting people for having the temerity for pointing out a needless irritation that could easily be resolved. Why complain about things you would like to see improved, when you can instead complain about people wanting to see the improvements?
Sure, i’ll give you an argument, most people are terrible at the game, and need the ilvl to carry them, and since it’s queueable content, blizzard wants you to finish with minimal effort.
So the only way to do that is to force people to overgear it by a lot.
Blizzard was kind enough to also give us a way to bypass this problem, you just refuse to use it because you see it as inconvenient. nvm that it is actually way faster if you’re a DPS 
But sure, you keep fighting the fight on the forums, the rest of us will just bypass this nonexistent problem 
No, most people being terrible at the game is not a good argument. That is an argument for an ilevel requirement for heroics. Its not an argument for an ilevel requirement for heroics that is only 3 ilevel lower than the gear that drops for the logical proceeding stage.
And its not a “non existent” problem. Maybe you dont think its a big deal, but try gearing on an alt just using normal lfd. I think you will quickly change your mind. That fact that you can circumvent it by running heroics without LFD doesnt mean it isnt stupid. Why exactly would it make sense to require you to gear up to qualify to run heroics by… running heroics? Particularly when in LFD you have 15% buff, making it significantly easier.
Make friends or groups, then manually go to Heroic dungeons instead of relying on this anti-MMO auto-group system they call the dungeon finder.
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OK, you dont like LFD. Dont use it. That doesnt invalidate my complaint.
Done, was super easy, Tasiele-Scarshield Legion
Rogue ilvl 177 equipped 180 in bags.
DK ilvl 177 equipped and in bags.
You are so right its like super hard to gear, if hard means super easy.
Well as you clearly didnt get ilevel 177 from normal dungeons, that would be evidence of what precisely? Oh right, absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.
Look, this isnt really hard to understand. If you are gearing exclusively via normals, you need around 13-14 slots filled to reach the HC threshold. You get around 1 drop per run on average. The more slots you fill, the more likely it is you get a duplicate rather than a new slot. The last couple of pieces of gear you fill out, you might be talking 3-4 runs per to get 1 slot on AVERAGE. You can easily get unlucky and take far longer than that.
And you need over a dozen pieces of gear. That is a long and tedious normal dungeon spam, especially when you consider how trivial they are.
I only did normals to reach that point, at which point i did HCs before doing mythics, so yes it is entirely possible.
You just keep crying over nothing. But w/e you keep going to the forums to get into HC, I’ll just keep gearing my chars.
If you check my character, I am currently playing mythics. I am aware it is possible. I am making the point that the normal to HC dungeon finder transition is needlessly annoying, and it would be far less annoying if they just lowered the ilevel requirement for HC to 150. Its not as if people are barely scraping through heroics in LFD with the present ilevel requirement.
Continuing to say its nothing when simple mathematics clearly demonstrate that reaching 155 ilevel solely through normal gear will literally take several dozen runs on average doesnt actually make it nothing. Just lower it to ilevel 150, the the number of runs necessary is dramatically decreased.
Edit: oh and what do you know, a player who likely spent a small fortune on a BOE weapon. But sure, tell me more how easy it is to gear up to 155 in normals.
Didnt buy the boe’s till after mythics, but keep trying 
had to know what slots i needed you know.
And the solution is still simple, you dont like the way it works? Dont bloody use it.
You seem to think its a problem you actually need to do some dungeons before moving on, are you also the kind of player who goes “Aha! Done X dungeon on +10, so clearly i must be ready for 20s”
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And if we go.for what is most convenient instead, why not just have everyone get their bis gear in the mailbox, oh wait, how inconvenient, having to find a mailbox, it should just automatically be equipped when you log in.
Part of the journey in wow is collecting the gear you need to move to the next level, without the journey whats the point?
What are you talking about? When the hell did I say anything comparable to if youve done a +10, you are ready for +20? Or that you shouldnt need to complete any dungeons before qualifying for heroic? What I actually said is that I would have no issue with having to complete all normals before being able to queue for heroic (though this should definitely be account wide), but that having to fill every slot is a needless grind. As you are apparently unaware, there are not 9 intermediate difficulty levels between normals and heroics. There are in fact no intermediate difficulty levels.
Curiously, you have not provided one good argument as to why you should need to run normals several times each before reaching heroic, or why they couldnt just lower the ilevel requirement to 150 instead to make this far less annoying.
But you still seemingly object to me to even making this request for an improvement. I dont know why.
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And you havent come with a good argument for lowering it in the first place.
Your argument amounts to “I dont wanna do normals no more” it’s akin to a 5 year old throwing a tantrum about having to go to bed at a set time.
Yes I have. You dont need 155 to do HCs, and the requirement makes you spend a completely unreasonable amount of time in normals. Thats not a 5 year old throwing a tantrum, its a statement of the obvious.
If you would prefer that trivial but time consuming grinds remain in the game for no good reason, we will just have to agree to disagree.
There is a good reason, as i said earlier, most people are garbage at the game.
But you keep throwing your tantrum.