By this time those people who were frequently doing M+ are around 270+ ilvl, so as a 259 ilvl you have a really low chance of getting accepted into a 15, even if you’d have higher rio.
I am almost certain that is the case. The character you are talking about is a warlock, Destro on top of it, FOTM spec which gets a bigger pass during Rio checks than other specs.
Even if you are capable and can do 15s, you will have a hard time being invited because at this point of time there will be an abundance of higher ilvl DPS signing up for the same key you do. Higher ilvl = higher chance of success for people.
And yes, this will have an effect at lower keys too, since high ilvl players go to lower ilvl keys to speedrun them for valor.
its not about this. again im saying it as someone who mains BM hunter. no matter what you will do - how well you will play your bm hunter you will still be outdpesed by miles by any survvial hunter pressing literaly 1 button.
this is plain bad design because blizzard devs are to lazy to tune classes correcly
thats why i leveld and geared 2nd hunter to enjoy those big boy numebrs for a bit too .
honestly try it - get 246 staff from sand dune rares craft survival leggos swap covenant to kyrian and you will see how idiotic overpowered that spec is atm
untill you try it yourself you will not understand .
to be fair thats how most guilds have been for years.
since legion its nearly laways the same - each mythic raid guild looks the same . in each you will find those 5-6 people who only do m+ with each other and they are ususaoly doing like 21-24 and the rest who are lucky to be invited into 15s and when they ask in guild chat who wants to do key nobody answers them , but the moment one of "core m+ team ’ logs in and asks there are ton of answers
its the same story in almost every guild out there thats why so many peopel find guilds poitnless waste of time for years now
half of my invites to 15-17 on my retri pala comes with comment - i took you only because i main retri pala and feel sorry for every other retri out there
But it is far more important to do the mechanics. It is very much irrelevant if a class does double damage for +15’s or even lower what people talk about here.
So why are these people with the “ton of answers” not creating their own group to play M+? It is kind of something when 25 people are online, 5 people are doing dungeons, 20 are hoping for a spot in that 1 group when 1 player maybe logs off.
ll you must be joking. i mean you are correct but 95% of groups in lfg depend on being carried by hard dps and bruteforcing through everything
its a mimracle if people even interupt most dangerous spells - most dont even know what to interupt unless in corrdinated group .
want example ? do you know how many havoc dhs and ww monks i see in m= who never even once use their aoe stun ? monks using ring of peace correcly are crazy scarse.
another example - i can count groups that did wo skip in spires correcly on finders of one hand even tough i did dozens of those this season .
unless you mean like most basics of basic that would autowipe you if you didnt do them
sorry but no people dont even do half of mechanics in m+
I mean, i got on a new char max level last week. Someone else in my group too. Because i am usually the healer the boomie specced for the occasion resto but did because of that no damage. We had (true a surv hunter) only 1 dps and a tank (on 1 of his rejected alts) basically and timed a 15… I know quite some ilvl in there, but you are already brute forcing it with 2 people. In my run there was only 1 player playing his main
why ? because majoority of people are really horrible at playinh wow
yes i know its truism - but i have seen way to many 270+ people who pull barely numbers that some people were able to do on some classes in 226 gear in season 1. and yet they think they belong in +15 just because othrs boosted them there. and are surprised why people leave their keys.
you dont have to belive it . its just my persona anecdoatal experiences.
but in complete pug yes its normal that people dont want to risk it.
the point im trying to make is some people really would benefit a lot if they stick to keys like 10-12 which still give very good gear from GV and where they can be boosted by random pugs .
Nah I tank in pugs, so I am not affected like other people here. I just push my own key to +15 and then do 15s non-stop with high IO people where I just invite WW monks / Survival hunters and any non-resto druid healer. So again, I am not affected by this dumb system.
The truth is that the current IO system is stupid, awful and incentivizes time waste. The entire having to do both tyrannical and fort keys (and rewarding high IO for failed keys) is nothing but a complete waste of time that benefits bad players who spam dungeons with 6k dps only to eventually be carried by better players.
At the same time, making gear acquirement in m+ dumb, slow and awful also slows down significantly how long it takes for a DPS player to sign up for +15s (compared to Legion / BFA that is).
It has nothing to do with laziness, and everything to do with not having to want to do +11-+14´s like 30 times to climb the RIO ladder with the people in this world who are the very worst at computer games.
Again, I am not bitter, I am not affected by this, and honestly anyone who solo pugs as DPS is an insane person, who should be spending their time better.
But the current system is dumb and stupid, realizing this is not laziness.
happend to me twice this season that they didn’t pick my tank with 244ilvl but when i log on my pala 266 or druid 265 the same group invited me instantly without any delay
I punished them after that
People actually do this, and to be honest, anyone who does this belongs in a psych ward. Like, clearly I´m a lunatic for posting on the WoW GD board, but the amount of malice and ego required to do something this wicked…
If you are a tank just host your own keys. Why would you even join a random key as a low IO / low ilvl tank? Chances are the keyholder is awful at the game, or has no clue how to invite good people. So you end up with a run where you are nr. 1 DPS as a 244 ilvl tank in a +10 or something.
Just host your own keys and invite WW monks and Surv Hunters, it´s not that hard get to +15s, and once you are there you can just spam +15s by inviting 3k IO ppl doing their weekly.
Of course when there are no keys i need for my gear i do my own and build that key UP
but sometimes i just like to go and help people
That way i can help them with key and in exchange i can get gear from their specific key
If it really matters to you, you would do your own key and get it up in the hope it becomes the key for the dungeon you looking for. Or you could simply join the same level key on any dungeon and hope to time it. You then have a chance at exchanging your key at the end in the hope you get the dungeon you after.
I mean this in a kind and considered way, but reading your post comes across like a complaint that nobody wants to carry you.
It’s difficult to get into keys that you need. When people create groups, they’d rather take people who have already timed that key on that level than people who haven’t timed it (for obvious reasons, I think). Of course there’s a chance that someone will accept you, and you can improve your chances by having a lot of other keys timed at that level of higher, but the best option is to try to get the key you need for yourself.
Im sorry, idk if youre trolling or are bored or wtf is this topic. But you totaly buried your entire topic with this sentence. So youre the same…judging ppl based on their score and ilvl. Shameless hypocryte and then coming to the forums to cry when others do literaly the same thing.
You playing since 2009 is irrelecant. It doesnt matter if you play for 90 years…if you dont know the route or dungeon…you will get oneshoted, body pull something, pull pack that should be skipped etc…
These arguments " i play since vanila" are just irelevant. Yure just not that good mate.
“Im best dps usualy”… for doubt. Even if youre playing fotm busted OP spec.
Same with mage tower… irelevant to the topic…different gear…difierent powers …completely different scenario…irelevant. You just have nothing.
And no i wouldnt accept 250ilvl no score lock to.my 15 just out of the principle. Lets forget about the fact that if you list 15 key, you have 50 ppl sign up with double or almost a tripple your score and bis gear trying to get vault…lets forgot that for a moment…if i see 250 lock trying to que for 15 then i just consider that a shameless atempt to get a free boost.
Stop crying, run your key…get your score and ilvl up like the rest of us did, and ppl will inv you no problem…because at the end of the day …remember…you play destro.
So yeah, i did that on my Tank Druid and guess what, 2.4k Score in 1 Week, just waiting for the next week to get my 2.8k - 3k, but i guess im still a bad player arent i?
for doubt. Even if youre playing fotm busted OP spec.