Nah just some sad individual lying and changing what I say when he quotes me.
You deserve it after talking crap about Baine while worshipping Sylvanas. Maybe you should give Baine a break instead of being such an annoying hater.
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I don’t like traitors. You can worship them as much as you like.
Baine would be disappointed with you for your behaviour. Shame on you.
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Then I guess you don’t like Sylvanas.
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I really like Sylvanas. I’ve hardly made any secret of that on the forums.
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The only candidate of some merit for the warchief position would be Lor’themar.but its gonna be a council anyway so… Yeah.
Thrall has heebie jeebies about it “I can’t do it”.
Rokhan hasn’t led enough people to pull it off. Revisit in a view years.
Gallywix doesn’t lead, he employs, and he’s a pretty awful employer.
Baine has led the tauren somewhat successfully in his father’s absence but when it comes to trials and tribulations I think he’s a bit too idealistic to do what should be done.
Allied races = probably not even eligible. But talanji is new to ruling, thalyssra seems okay but has been leading rebels, not a nation. Same for mag har lady. Mayla still has lots to learn.
Lor’themar dutifully attended to his people in kael’thas’ absence during the third war and since. He has overseen the entire sin’dorei nation through many troubles and has shown a combination of pragmatism, ruthlessness but not outright cruelty. In terms of effectiveness he’d make the best warchief going, but no way will it happen. Two elves in the hotseat in a row? Orcs would wail.
But as said, council makes it irrelevant but he would certainly be the best choice if it came down to it. There’s also little chance he’d go on a random bender and become a villain to be looted during it.
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But you just said that you don’t like traitors. Do you need a pointer at who called the Horde nothing and left them to rot?
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Well, that can be considered as truth so far but now Garrosh will return!
I don’t see it that way.
…HUR DURR
I’ll have my slice of Baine rare please!
So you’re in denial then? I just don’t like your double standards. While I apologize for my trolling (even though I wasn’t really being completely serious), I still don’t like when people show double standards due to personal bias.
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I am not against but it is boring and I paid for an year. I trusted them, so did many of those people here. The death of wow comes old friend, and with it all of our hopes.
Bainecand sylvanas were both traitors of varying kinds and that’s why ultimately they’re both poor candidates for warchief.
Baine clings to idealism irrespective of reality. That’s a recipe for being a victim of a political coup and being manipulated by enemies with less than honest intentions. He betrayed the state because of his own beliefs about what the state should be, which is a strange example to set for your subjects (as essentially it encourages them to rebel against you if they disagree with what you’re doing in any way)
Sylvanas completely eschews ideals in favour of the pragmatics of her situation. Mechanically it works, but it does nothing to inspire people to support you, and civilians will only ensure so much cruelty and being crushed before they undermine your rule (as we saw).
The right leader needs a combination of ideals tempered by a pragmatic spirit. They need to belief in something but have ideas about how to achieve it and when it’s right to compromise on parts of it, and which parts you can’t compromise ever. This is why Lor’themar would be the only decent warchief when it comes down to it because he’s the only one who comes close to this balance.
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No, I agree with that. I don’t want Baine to be warchief either. I was just kidding. I’m fine with the council system we have now.
I’m pglad rain all of an opinion that the Horde now is too diverse to be led by one person.
Hardly.
I mean I would have thought as a Baine supporter it wouldn’t be hard to understand that people have different views on what is going on.
Whilst I saw Saurfang, Baine and Thrall as complete traitors and hypocrites (some more than others), others saw them as trying to get away from what they perceived as Evil Sylvanas. To me Saurfang is the reason Sylvanas had to resort to burning the tree. That wasn’t the plan, they were going to occupy it.
In that same way I do not see Sylvanas as a traitor. She couldn’t stay after what happened outside the Gates of Orgrimmar. But I met with her afterwards. She did not desert me or betray me. She protected me from anyone knowing I sided with her because she knew of the consquences that would bring.
Whilst I have liked having choice in the game, it was pretty meaningless other than getting some alternate/extra cut scenes. It didn’t change any outcome, but it can’t really. It’s not like playing a single player game.
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Love your comments man! Speak like his official representative. True advocate of the blood elves. Well done! You will and must be in his council.
beefy and succulent warchief, i would give him a chance becouse of this feast looks as very promising event.
Baine is a pacifist unfit for the Warchief position.
Pacifist being in power position already happens on the Alliance, but it works in a different way… they don’t get to choose who rules and potentially fight over it, it’s all about Human royalty.
Tauren being superior to every race? What are you, Tauren version of Garrosh? Tauren are good people (except Grimtotem…) but they also are the most Alliance-friendly race so there’s that.
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I was until that jerk Rommath exiled me for tampering with the void. Short sighted fool.
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