I have all of the races unlocked, without too much active effort into them. Stop looking at the big scary numbers and just crack on with it
Going to legion and doing WQs every day there isnât an active effort? 
Then why come 7 yearâs late because if you wanted the original style of reputation farming (Tabred, you should like pre MOP, thus classic, which will be that way.
I got them but they should lock them behind a grind. They do that to extend the sub because youâd unlock the race and say : man this game sucks
Its useless. That content eq is powerless, instances are joke. Every collectable value is way, WAY lower than it was during said xpac time which made them nonunique. Imagine it that way:
- hard lvl cap at 60, every xpac
- every xpac comes with new unique mechanics which can be progressed only by said expansions content
- eq is mostly all about look and unique effects
⌠that way every xpac becomes endgame viable, zones wont be that dead, collectables becomes hard to get and very unique, mog sets becomes unique
I donât think you get what I mean. That IS an active effort. And it doesnât take much. Just be patient.
You are right, op, grinding rep through world quests is already an extremely boring part of the game, but having to do it in an old expansion so you can get to start the character you want is a terrible idea. Itâs certainly not fun, itâs only boring and tedious, and not helpful in bringing returning players to the game.
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I love how thereâs no middle ground between âan excessively long rep grind designed to pad out content and subscriptionsâ and âgetting everything for nothingâ
The wow community really has become more and more brain dead over the years.
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im not entirely certain what you mean, but if you mean did i like how reps were done pre Legion? yeah i think they were a lot better.
- first off⌠⌠they ended!!! paragon makes them go on for ever.
- second, you could do them when you wanted, not held back by how many wqâs were up at a certain time. if you had a whole weekend to waste killing furblog for timbermaw rep, you could do it. now, once you hit your daily cap of about 2K or whatever for 8.2 reps, thats it. youâre done for the day. now, while the overall time invested might be shorter with legion/bfa reps, the calender time is far longer cause you are timegated.
- i dont think tabards giving rep were a thing until WotLK? so that would not be a way to get rep in classic. not including the amount of time reps took, i think that the way they were DONE in vanilla is fine. only 2 were a sorta pain, DMF and shenâdralar. both having to rely on expensive or rare spawn items. but i spose having 1 or 2 reps needing special attention is fine when there are 20-30 reps which do it ânormallyâ. they are like the difference between an A and an A+ grade.
unfortunately legion and BfA reps are just boring and timegated. on the weekend i had a lot of free time and i lvled a dwarf from 115-120 with 399 ilvl. if i had wanted to spend that time grinding out rep for 8.2 races, i couldnât have done more than the standard 2K~ rep per day which can be done in maybe 30-60 minutes for both zones. hence why im still only around 16K for both because i dont feel like doing it some days, and other days im just not on. whereas if it was like WoD or earlier, i would have been exalted weeks ago.
this is so true, and the catalyst so often for many of the arguments here. people just cant accept a middle ground even when the side they are taking is so far to one side its just silly. like wqâs and the fact that they are the 99% only way to get rep is amazing content. people do defend this :s
its so simple to see what blizzard are doing about padding out time played to keep sub money coming in, but so many people wont accept that saying we want everything for free. we dont want if for free, we want it for a reasonable cost. the best thing with allied races should have been to be able to do a quest chain at 60+ to unlock them, with a unique questline for each allied race. locking them behind rep, and old rep at that is just lazy and a cop out to make us spend more time on it rather than doing stuff that we might actually enjoy. (Legion rep is already old, and BfA rep will be old in 9.0)
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OMG this makes me so happy! I am endless optimist so i think, maybe devs are getting our point finally and noticing this kind of activities are missed! 
This is my worry. I have seen one good irl friend return to game after last playing in tbc/start of wotlk who was really exited to hop and and try bfa features and get into playing. He wanted to also make void elf and he tried to grind that rep in Legion while he was also trying to squeeze in time to play in current content to get a feel of it and play with us. His game time (when he had time to play) went mostly in void elf grind alone and he didnât manage to get it done before first sub month ended and same time he was falling more and more behind on BFA things. He didnât sub for second month but quitted again, he felt really angry about having to do voild elf grind on older expansion and how it prevented him to play with us (he really did want those velves!).
BFA features should be gindable in BFA content. Returning players should be able to hop into latest expansion content without missing that content features just because they didnât play on earlier expansion. Yes i know we played Legion and we did our grinds when they were early access and all that, but for those who return it is HUGE roadblock and going back isolates them from current content and most of the players.
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Wow community become bad and lazy. They want everything with minimum effort. Everyone grinded it so new/returning players should do it too.
Yes, its long rep grind but how is this fair if a lot of ppl wasted a lot of time to grind it to only see others do get same rewards for much less effort?
Ppl who rly want allied races will farm it, cry babies will cry
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Back in vanilla the wintersaber rep grind was immense and took months. They increased the rep gained per hand-in a couple of times, then totally changed it.
Thereâs no reason they canât adjust older rep grinds again, or remove them, make a quest instead, or even sell access in the cash shop if they want to (whoa). Itâs a game that changes all the time. If changing the new race requirements brings players back, renews subs and encourages new players to join, theyâd be foolish not to do something about it eventually and I think they probably will.
Itâs a relatively hefty grind for the feat of strength achievement thatâs for sure. Thatâll go if they level squish.
First of all, subject here are the Allied Races, thatâs the reward for doing âold contentâ. When you unlock one you can by either levleing up or boosting eventuly use in playing new content, so that reward is useful. As for collectibles like moutns, pets, transmog, just because they arenât as unique doesnât mean they are useless. What makes a certain content useful to you is just the fact that you want the reward it offers.
has anyone thought to consider that maybe the person likes the allied race so much they want it to be their main? not everyone is like me where i am tied to this rogue cause too much is invested in it, and so much STILL is not accountbound, so the allied races i made will never be anything more to me than 2nd rate alts of classes i already have. (i had 1 of each class on both factions BEFORE allied races were ever mentioned, so i had to duplicate, so i have 6 warriors now for example).
but these other people, to get the race they ACTUALLY want to be their main they have to:
- level up a character to 110 (for legion allied) or 120 (for BfA) allied,
- farm all the rep needed to unlock the allied race (which of course are timegated by wqâs), do any non allied race questlines needed, cause certain aspects are locked behind quests (war campaign) and then do the allied race questline.
- DO IT ALL AGAIN for the new allied race they WANT to be their main.
if we were talking about everyone making allied races just as alts âmaybeâ it wouldnât be so bad, but people want them to be their mains, so while you and i can stick to our old nelf, belf or whatever established and sole main, they have to make at least TWO characters.
its a tad unfair. if i wanted to be a pandaren or worgen, i dont have to level up a toon first to unlock it as my main.
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Apparently also in sense of taking time to read what people are actually talking about before writing snappy reply.
Talk is about having to do old content, not about âi want everything free or with minimum effortâ. If allied races grind (all of them) would be doable in BFA content (in the expansion that allied races came out) it wouldnât be such a problem for returning players who want to experience latest expansion and itâs features.
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Originally, only one death knight could be created per realm per account, but this restriction was lifted in patch 5.3. The requirement of already having a level 55+ character in order to create a death knight was lifted in patch 6.1. <----- THIS IS 3 EXPANSIONS LATER
Remember this? Wotlk cry babies remember. And they still did it. Now shut up and go grind or move the f**k on.
i do remember and i was already 70 on the release of WotLK so it did not effect me. if i wanted to swap i could have. but the restriction was limited. anyone who hit 60 in vanilla or 70 in tbc would have been able to make a dk ON RELEASE of WotLK cause they ALREADY had the requirements of a 55+ toon. so ANY returning players who spent at least a bit of time on the game from 2004 - 2008 would be able to make a dk STRAIGHT AWAY.
NOW however, any returning players will not be able to make an allied race cause they wont have the rep, and i think they wouldnât be able to make a dh cause isnât the requirement a 100 toon?
if they are trying to get returning players to take a fresh look at the game, LOCKING THE FRESH CLASSES AND RACES BEHIND A GATE IS STUPID!!! and this has been proven so by the amount of people who have said they themselves quit, or they know someone who quit JUST for that reason.
also, back in wotlk we are talking about 4 years of content done, most of which could just be ignored cause it was basically just gear. now you cant toon hop because you have rep locked, achievements locked, and so much more, on top of having 14 years worth of content done.
so comparing the wotlk dk requirement locks to the bfa requirement locks are not comparable.
of course if weâre talking about brand new players, this could be even worse cause they might have bought the game SPECIFICALLY cause of the shiny allied race on the cover. which they now cant use -_-
i also have all 8 allieds unlocked, and 6 of the armors. (kt/zanda are both stuck on 70.)
so, your point is⌠⌠⌠�
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they need to introduce killing mobs to earn rep again like in wotlk where u had to be friendly with the ashen verdict to get the main quest line for shadowmourne. this stupid mission table and world quests need to be removed they are so retarded and bring back vendors and remove the rng and roll back class deisgn and remove the last 3 expansions
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Raid trash farm to get the Bis ring. Are you trying to mass trigger people.
You can choose to play one of the core races. But you always need to complain about whatever you donât have and canât obtain it in 3 minutes, right?
Apparently those allied races are for those who played the content long enough.
What is a meaningful content?
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