I thought this was supposed to be a tool basically for people to get into a new class and learn the ropes, if it is actually competitive at end game it’s worrying for real, because what are we even doing here? One button rotation, weakauras, cooldown trackers, DBM, “run away little girl”, blaring horns, stand here, move to this person
Do people even like playing the game? Like it some point it becomes ridiculous, if you don’t have to plan your abilities, you don’t have to think or respond to incoming abilities, you can ignore what is going on on the screen and just have the information told to you by an AI voiceover, you have addons tellings you how to position on boss fights, etc etc
Are people just looking for a cookie clicker with a warcraft skin slapped on it?
Finally got to play WoW today, and honestly I ain’t impressed… not with Havoc DH at least.
I use GSE with him, have been since MoP Remix, and using that outputs more DPS than the one button assist.
Havoc is basically unplayable with OBR because it refuses to use movement abilities and half of those are your core resource generators.
There seem to be a lot of people who would be willing to pay a monthly sub and a box price for every expansion to observe an auto-battler.
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Its only Felblade and VR. And you rarely run out of Fury (or whatever it was called). Especially if you are playing Adrachi since you run the talent that eye beam generates Spite (I’m calling it spite now).
Quoting Shadarek, even the hekili clone comes out at something like a 30% loss. And that’s without the gcd penalty.
It’ll just sit there with no fury not pressing fel blade, a lot.
It also won’t press immolation aura on Single Target.
Wtf XD? Why does it not press FB? I get why it doesn’t use VR but FB XD? Oooh and I guess it doesn’t use sigil because its a ground targeter.
Because it moves your character.
But it moves to your target… So this thing is just meant to be braindead mode. I mean from the logic that it avoids unwanted movement even if it moves you to your target, Blizzard knew that players would not pay attention on what ability they would be pressing with the 1BR.
PS It doesn’t use “The hunt” as well right? Yeah makes sense why Havoc is doing so bad with it.
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It wouldn’t use this anyway. It, for the most part, won’t use anything with a cd longer than 30 seconds. You can just, for the most part, handle the rest of your abilities with a simple cooldown macro.
However it does use meta, which is both a movement ability and a cooldown so it’s really just a mess for DH.
Thats so weird. I would love to have word with the person who made the OBR for Havoc and ask what was the thought process.
it’s loss if u know how to play.
if I use it on my mage I will lose dps.
I might get more dps when i use on my demon DK or rogue.
most people play terribly bad - that’s why they barely touch instanced content.
for those people - clickers and confused andies - the OBR will be a savior allowing them to play at average level.
Most people who engage in instanced content, even those who do what is currently viewed as challenging content, don’t maintain a consistent performance of more than 70%~ of what is theoretically possible. Which is fine, because that’s what the content is tuned for.
Which is why setting a minimum benchmark of 70-85% with OBR feels so strange.
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What do you think the best solution for OBR is at this point? Increase the performance penalthy, make it unusable in instances ot something else? Because the toothpaste is already out, no way Blizzard will straight out remove it (even though I have been on the “this is a bad idea” train since they announced it).
I don’t think increasing the gcd penalty further works because a lot of specs mechanically fall apart / having so much waiting simply isn’t fun. Having some sort of debuff be applied after using it for a few seconds could be an option, alongside the current gcd. Maybe 25%.
I think it’s great for accessibility, I think it’s also good for people who just want to kind of feel the fantasy of their spec, get to experience big moments when everything lines up and feel comfortable in lower end content.
But I think people should be encouraged to move on from it, either to the rotation assist or internalising the rotation through muscle memory, in order to achieve loftier goals.
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Fwiw. I just did zero to KSM in one day with Single-Button Assistant. Never did M+ before, just heroic raiding. Learning game mechanics this way is pretty fun and doesn’t feel as much like cheating as using GSE does.
And what does this tell us?
It tells us that when I said the class rotations are over-complicated and that people are spending too much time struggling with their class instead of struggling with their enemies… I might have been on to something?
This whole situation is beyond tragic. I can’t believe they did this.
It’s an improvement over how people actually play but a downgrade from what the theoretical maximum is.
This one button macro is s straight up cheat.
I’m actually upset about this. Could 20 years of WoW be coming to an end for me? It’s possible.
And this isn’t the only reason, but it’s certainly more than a straw on the camel’s back.
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I know right? It’s not that bad anymore actually, but what does it even matter. I’m sick of this class design, and that one button rotation is a tragic and terrible way to end it.
What Blizzard has done here is unacceptable. I’d rather play Morrowind - the combat is better.
How does that even happen 
So I will. Right now.
