Orc is the strongest race in the game

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Yet Horde still gets a welfare rank 1 cutoff thrown after them

Why is that so? Why does one faction have to do a lot more and get much higher rating for the exact same title reward? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

The system is outdated blizz, it’s basically just favoring Horde at this point no matter which faction is stronger racial wise.

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I guess because shadowmeld is still more broken. :man_shrugging:

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For what besides druids and rogues?

Orc is the best race for warrior, dk, monk, shaman, warlock, mage, hunter

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But that’s just simply not true.

There’s a reason 3x Orc is often the answer during certain metas, hell, never seen people go 3x Nelf for the advantage it’d give.

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Yeah, at this point, I think, Blizzard should start from nerfing racials, then provide free transfers to Alliance even with bonuses for groups of friends or unique tmog/mounts.
What is Horde vs Alliance population in total rn, like 70% vs 30%?

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Think he is more about what you can do with the n11 racial compared to others.

dodging midair casts, combat dropping that could save your life.

But i see it somehow on the same level as human racial :man_shrugging:

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Best racial changes every season based on the meta anyway.

Racials imo should be disabled or made a fourth talent with BALANCED options but for whatever reason, Blizzard have never done this. When they added pvp talents it was imo a perfect time to do it.

Especially when you have to play a spec like Assa rogue when NE is head and shoulders above any other racial or in the current meta where orc is just stupid.

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Well, they made it so it’s the same percentage cutoff, but instead of being the percentage of all players in the ladder, it’s instead only of the players on your faction in the ladder.

Which means, for horde’s cutoff to be lower despite having more players, they’ve either got fewer at the very top thus pushing the horde’s top lower than the alliance’s top, or horde has so many more players that it puts the cutoff that much lower.

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Yea I get the math behind it, but it doesn’t make sense to have such a system design wise.

Horde gets more spots because it has more lower rated players, which also really doesn’t make any sense from a design & fairness PoV

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all racials should have been removed from the game long ago, we should be able to play what race we think is cool instead of forced to play whats best

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Well, it was put in during a time when Alliance both had more players and a lot more of the r1 spots.

Tbh they should really just revert the change to the cutoffs, and focus more on racials. Because the outcome now is a classic example of having treated the symptom, not the cause.

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that’s because of RP reasons.

It’s not impossible to do that suggestion though, but they’d have to create a narrative where it’d make sense for players to pick other races’ racials for their PvP clashes yet still not be able to use it out in the “world”.

Or they can just create PvP-only servers with PvP-only abilities and PvP-only talents like they should’ve done a long time ago, with account-wide achievements providing access to rewards on the “real” characters on the “real” realms.

It makes absolutely ZERO sense for PvE changes to mess up PvP, and PvP getting treated like second-class citizens that always gets treated like an afterthought.

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Give so many usefull option to chose as ally have by race/class for PvP and u can delete orcs racials.

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I just want the welfare r1 gone

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If we assume that the next xpac will have xfaction arenas,this issue will go away. If hardiness stays the way it is, it’s going to stay broken af.

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regeneration): Health regeneration rate increased by 10%. 10% of total Health regeneration may continue during combat.

/beast-slaying): Experience gains from killing Beasts increased by 20%.

damn blizzard

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But who’s going to yell “For the Horde” at blizzcon?

Cross faction arenas are long overdue tbh, even cross faction gameplay in general.

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Some grandpa with a white beard, i guess :innocent:

Cross faction arenas are long overdue tbh, even cross faction gameplay in general.

Ion said in an interview with Preach that something big is going to come in 9.2. So maybe it’s even coming with SL? Or do we already know what it is? And if they don’t bring it with the next expac we can only shake our heads.

There are many ppl who don’t like the idea of xfaction. But if they change warmode a little bit, they might be able to make it work for everyone.

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Nothing related to the factions though. It’s still up in the air if we’ll ever get cross faction play.

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Don’t think cross faction play will ever happen there’s still alot of people that still play because of the separation.

Either have to disable racials or just change the orc racial like they did previous expansions

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Wtf deja vu? Same topic every season by same dk?