I unlocked the Mag’har a while back and promptly forgot all about their story.
Now things have steadied irl for me I was thinking of firing up for some good olde levelling and thought I’d dust off my Mag’har orc.
Could anyone recap their backstory - just the ones that joined the Horde recently.
This is my butchered understanding…
Time?
So we went back to recruit them and time passed?!? - How did that happen?!? How much time passed? 35years?!?
Place?
What happened to the place… it started falling apart through attrition? Did we cause that?
The fanatic Draenei?
The Draenei led by Yrel went righteous overlords?
Why? Evil unwavering Light?
Finally 4) Orc Priests?
Some Orcs learned about Light and Shadow from the Naaru?
Then rebelled when Yrel turned on them?
All I remember is fleeing the planet with Thralls step sister and being really happy they joined up. Then kind of sad that they pledged loyalty to Sylvanas without knowing much about her… but anyway. Glad they’re here.
I’m looking forward to learning more about their new life on Azeroth and how they will develop further now they’re here.
Any comments would be appreciated to clear things up for me.
I tried to look into some of this myself but tbh a lot of the websites haven’t been updated to include orc priests and much of what is published was done before they were released, so Nobbel, wowhead and the wikki’s are pretty much speculation and not up to date.
some orcs were forcefully turned to the light others joined willingly. you could play an orc that got here and wanted to know what the light was all about form our priests.
Yes, more time passed on Draenor for reasons I don’t exactly remember, but I think it was because time moved faster in the alternate Draenor dimension, and slower on MU Azeroth.
It is implied it was caused because of the Lightbound and their war, which caused the land to become barren. But to be fair, I’m not entirely sure if that is the cause although it might be partly true, since Draenor has been known to react heavily on how the people on it live.
Yeah, about that… apparently, Yrel was contaced by an unknown N’aaru who tasked her with bringing all being on Draenor under the Light. She took this rather seriously, and became intolerant to those who did not want to convert to the Light.
They already existed, the Shadowmoon Clan has been using Void-based magic on AU Draenor.
Pretty much yes, Blind, misguided followers of the Light, similar to Lightforged.
Depends, evil is a point of view after all. But the acts of the Lightbound do make them quite evil. They want to enslave all orcs and other races to the Light under false claims and beliefs.
Light, like any power, corrupts, what makes it worse is that Light is sentient, specifically the Naaru, a mind of it’s own allowing it to control those who serve it. Just one reason why the Mag’har hate them, and why shadowmoon orcs are only ‘‘shadow priests’’, they would never be holy or discipline, the playable ones anyway. You can see it in the starting area in Orgrimmar, where there are only ‘‘Darkcasters’’ of their kind.
That’s why i added Naaru in an edit, to be more specific.
The definition of sentience is basically being aware of self existence, able to think and perceive, to talk even.
And Naaru have all that, in that sense they are like any living being, except they have no moral agencies…no emotions.
But the Naaru aren’t the Light because the Light itself has no sentience. They are made of crystalized Light but that doesn’t mean they are the Light or represent its will. They have thier own schemes as seen with differences between Xe’ra and A’dal.
The Light on other hand is simply the Eternal Force of Creation. Nothing more; nothing less. The Light has no set rules to follow nor does it have a will of its own that would override will of others. It simply is and will ever be. What corrups people is their own thrist for power which is why Fel is so addicting to those who crave it. Even the Light can be addicting because according the lore it fills people with positive emotions when they are under effects of the Light; warmth, hope and joy.
Only thing what Lightforging could do is empower positive emotions and supress negative ones, kinda like reverse undeath since undeath reinforces negative ones while surpressing positive ones, because that’s what the Light does. Which would explain why the Lightforged don’t show fear and are willing to accept their own deaths if it means that something greater is to come from it without a problem.
Have you played the game, or have you been absent for the last few years?
That was not what i said in the first place, you’re once again making things up. They are crystallized Light, indeed, a physical manifestation of the Light, and most importantly are conscious beings. That much should be obvious, else they wouldn’t be able to talk, think or generally do anything.
The point I’m making is that the Light cannot be some evil mastermind that wants to rule the world or something because it cannot be so given that it has no will. What the Naaru do isn’t the same as what the Light does and if there was any mind controlling going on it comes from the Naaru; not the Light.
Don’t try make the Naaru synonymous with the Light. It would be like making human synonym to DNA.
To some extent they are, just like Void lords are the conscious manifestations of the Void, the power of the Void condensed into a physical, conscious being…an entity. Of course the Light/Void energies themsleves aren’t by any means sentient, but the Naaru and Void lords(and other void entities) who are made of the said energies, are sentient. It’s difficult to comprehend, but this is as simplistic as i can explain it.
So you’re saying DNA forced humans make nukes? Or DNA should be blamed for making nukes because humans made nukes and humans are made of DNA? Because that’s what your argument basically is about the matter; that Naaru created the Lightbound because the Naaru are made of the Light.
To me far more sensible explanation is that the Naaru have their own will and are doing their own things. Of course being beings of the Light they have certain tendencies affected by the Light but it shouldn’t be only thing that defines the Naaru or their will.
These primal forces are more morally characterized by how they’re wielded and so that’s not to say that all Naaru have the same motives or that all Void lords have the same motives necessarily, that they each have their own personality and their own goals but what we were trying in the Argus storyline to explore the idea of not all Naaru, and Xe’ra is an example, aren’t necessarily good and that good is kind of told through the players perspective because from Xe’ra’s perspective she is doing what she thinks is good but that good isn’t necessarily good for us as heroes of Azeroth and so we’re trying to infuse some of that gray area that the void or the fel can be wielded against the Burning Legion to what is good to us and just as the light can sometimes be oppressive.
