No, it’s an additional 25% resistance, so if your base chance is X% you resist (X+25)%. There’s no question about it except by players who don’t know for sure themselves and haven’t experimented to verify it.
To the contrary, every time I try to stun an orc they resist it. From my POV, Orcs have 100% stun resist chance.
It certainly does feel more like 50/50 to me as a Warrior, charge / intercept, on average 1 will resist.
Rogues quite often go for garrotte against Orcs due to the high resist chance.
Across two stuns it would feel a lot like 50%, yeah, because the chance for 0 resists would be 0.7^2=49%
Funny thing I noticed is that only alliance players seem to understand how this racial works. Horde nubs picked Orc because they obviously thought “rofl I now resist all stunz thiziz amaaaazinglol” and then find out it doesn’t work this way and start crying for a fix on something that works as intended.
Perception bias. Most orc players simply won’t notice the resists and will assume that the attacker didn’t use any stuns. The only really telegraphed stuns in the game are charge and intercept.
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They have. Several posts new and old about this subject.
All I’ve seen (which by the way isn’t much because most people acknowledge how strong this racial is) is anecdotal evidence. I have yet to see anyone bring proof with statistically significant data showing such ridiculously low resist chances. Every guide explains it clearly because it’s widely tested and consolidated information. Once more, it’s a huge benefit that was nerfed for TBC and then made a duration reduction.
And nobody who has PvPed a single bit against orcs can even suggest it’s anywhere close to 5%. Nobody would bat an eye about this race if that was the case (or even call for nerfs like they did over years)
You just pull the slot machine lever and hope for the best.
I had a 58% crit DH back in Legion NH-M progression, and I had pulls with 60% crits and pulls with 40% crits on average.
The entire idea of the Orc racial is to break certain classes rotation. A Paladin or Rogue. You can have bad RNG and good RNG and after 100 stuns it should balance out.
Also , even a 50% stun resistance can’t save you if a rogue decides to CC you.
Game is completely janked.
Except you are completely wrong, of course, because it was +25% to the base stun resist in Vanilla and everyone that played Vanilla will confirm.
That said, I don’t think it’s broken. I do resist quite a few stuns, but I haven’t done any exhaustive tests.
Im not saying you are wrong. I just said it was up for debate as no one really seem to know.
Something I allready stated.
We know because it’s been checked by players. There’s even been discussions during Classic beta about this and other basic issues (like hit caps, defense, etc) and people bothered to recheck over and over again. That’s what I mean with it being consolidated information.
No they can’t comfirm this. We assumed it was that hight, but there is something lacking.
30% is allot.
Just as the talent Anger Managment is misleading so can the tooltip of Hardiness.
You’re one stubborn orc, another proof hardiness works as intended!
Yeah you might be right, because 30% is a whole lot, but it can be hard to tell just from the few stuns you receive here and there. I think someone needs to take one for the team and do an exhaustive test (I’m talking hundreds of stuns), and see what comes up.
lol only 31 days played, typical casuals
Yes I am.
Thats why it would be nice to see or read some proper calculations on this.
Some say its flat 25%
Others say 25% + base 5%
Others say 25% + base 10%
Some say its 25% of base, making it either 7.5%, 12.5% or just 2.5 whatever players think or know what the base stun res is or how they calculate it.
Hardiness is strong no doubt. But 30% or 35% seems a bit over the top, but Im not claiming anything.
umm u cant really prove a % is wrong if ur not the acctual game dev or do like 100000 ish tests to get real % lol and its not like its gonna resist 25% of all stuns, its 25% on each stun mate
I never resisted any stun…
Pointless racial tbh