i know that iam newbie and i wont complain about how much paladin broken is but i just want to ask what is the sense of game if i face 14 games in a row with paladin as enemy? do we have 12 classes or 4?
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It’s not about paladin, it’s about Blizzard lack of competence/ lack of will to balance and about players not wanting to make the slightest effort.
Those 2 things make, every patch, a lot of people reroll for the class being the strongest/easiest.
It was DH for BFA and it’s gonna be pala for sl.
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You mean holy or Ret? Yeah, there is a lot of hpalas as it is disc priests since these are the two best performing healers.
i mean all of U, hpals, rets and prots or combination of 2 specs
Then you got unlucky in the matchmaking. Yeah, there is a lot of hpalas, still less of them on the bracket than disco priest (1~% difference), rets are about 5% of the bracket so doubt you’d see many of them in a long run (there are much, much better melee DPS rn) and as the gear gets better and better there is less and less Prot palas. So yeah, imo you just got unlucky with matchmaking, same as I did Vs rogue/mage in my games. Unironically 80% of the matches I’ve played was against this comp.
There is a lot at high cr in us, I watch pikaboo yesterday and legit 90%of match there was a paladin and like 50to 60 of them were ret/holy/x.
I’ve seen myself and on multiple stream à lot of 2x something /x and even 2 ele/rsham or stuff like that.
It shows how the game is unbalanced when there is 2x the same class but 3x is unbelievable =D
Hm, I’ll sound like broken record but it genuinely seems like unlucky matchmaking. Example - yday I’ve played 150ish 2s and ~100 of them were rogue-mage. I don’t believe that the ladder is filled with them to that point.
PS. looking at statistics it genuinely seems like just pure unluck. Apart from hpalas. Them and disco are the most popular healers by a mile.
Tbh almost 95%of healer are hpal or disc.
Hpal can easily deal with the meta with their tools even if the player is bad and disc can play every comp and cheese people with dark arch.
It’s not bad luck when you look at eu or us stream you can see all the time the same comp.
I don’t take for example, low cr cause you can see a lot of things due to people here and their lack of knowledge.
I tried playing holy yday, first time healing. My lost 180 rating tells different story Sadge
Obviously, I had actually 0 clue wtf I was really doing, but yeah agreed on that one. Holy has really good answers to the dangers specs pose and it itself is hard to kill.
oh yes I god damn love playing 2s with disco priests. Them no bubble kills on palas PepeJam
Almost, yeah. In higher ratings on its 42%hpal and 41%disco on EU, 40%hpal and 39%disc on NA.
Ret is 17% on EU and 17,5% on NA of the melee dps in the 3v3 bracket.
Think it absolutely is bad luck and singular streams are not at all representative of the player pool, data shows different story than these streams - which are very singular events, there is no real statistic you can get from 1 team queing into certain comps.
Idk I’ve watched a lot of stream at multiple cr but it’s almost the same comp over and over with the same spec : ww/ret/war/enh/boomkin /ele/mage/rogue
For healer it’s like almost hpal/disc and sometimes rsham but there is not that much from what I’ve seen.
You barely see other spec because I guess they don’ t have os potential or aren’t tanky as the other or maybe lack some tools Idk.
Yea the higher you go the more meta you see to be honest. And yea, for casters it’s this: 33% fmage, 24,3% spriest, 12% and 11,5% for boomie and ele so obviously you are going to see them a lot. Same for melee, it’s just a tad bit more of these specs to shuffle thru.
Yeah thats why I just cap the conquest and done for the week. Paladins are actively killing the game’s pvp side.
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You have played negative WR with 160 games on 1,29cr in 2s and youve played 25 games of 3s. You dont even cap.
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Every Pala specc currently is problematic in PvP, period.
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No? HH talent that buffs WoG healing the lower it goes and proc on DT conduit are the only “problematic” thing sthat ret has. It’s burst has always been there. Always been easy to deal with it aswell.
Prot is less and less viable, the more gear people have, sorry.
Holy is actually S+ tier. Is it problematic? Depends. Both S+ healer specs right now are “problematic” even thou not really. It’s just other healers not being “as good as them”. Holy pala is such a outlier only because it has really good answers to the current high-burst meta. Disc priest has really good answers, nice cc (MC+aoe fear) and 2 incredible cooldowns - PI and Archangel.
Edit: WW monk calling someone else problematic is quite ironic my man.
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yeah I still didn’t capped this week, you must be a detective to recognise that.
Yeah sounds like a you problem.
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No idea what are you talking about. But to be honest, not expecting more from a paladin player.
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That’s quite a compliment seeing as you didn’t manage to understand a simple sentence.
Arena is just super FotM-driven and players err heavily toward optimization and ways to min/max. Even at the lower rating brackets this mentality is highly prevalent. So lots of people reroll Paladin and people who play classes and specs that aren’t perceived as S-tier are frowned upon when people look for teammates in LFG.
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