You still don’t understand me.
You can spam that stuff and you will most definitely get more than a piece every 2 weeks like I do. That piece you can upgrade.
M plus will effectively be a great way to gear up.
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Gear have lower chance to drop if you barely do any content though. You did 6 m+ in more than 2 months. What did you expect from that?
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Ok but the problem WAS and IS the terrible drop rates which this is not addressing, going for more than 10m+‘S with no loot is not adressed with this
I do not understand. This should be a happy moment. You’re finally addressing a major pain point for the playerbase. You’re giving us what we want. ALMOST - why is it ALWAYS “almost”
Please explain to me: Why is valor-upgrades capped at 220 - when conquest is capped at 226/233? Both have a weekly cap - why is it not EXACTLY the same? It’s the SAME SYSTEM, and it serves the SAME PURPOSE. Why is 1>1 and not 1=1?
If its the opinion of the development team that keystone master should be equal to 1800 pvp-rating thats whatever - but why isn’t there 226 gear available for all 17s in time then? and 233 weapons for all 20s in time? Why are they not equal?
Where to set the bar for unlocking the different ilvls is not a job I envy you - but SURELY you must let the systems be equal at the top. If you wanna keep the max m+ reward at +15 - then make new achievements at every interval of 3 (+3 - 207,+6 - 213,+9 - 220,+12 - 226 and +15 - 233 weapons) Or let it go to +20.
But it is absolutely tilting that you have 2 identical systems, but one is just cut off 1-2 lvls below the other for no reason.
Keystone-master is the M+ equivalent to gladiator. We can talk about the difference in difficulty - but both are the highest achievements available and are both rewarded with a seasonal mount and ?title?. Maybe the bar for keystone-master is set too low for 233 ilvl weapons - but then raise it to 17s or 20s.
You made a great PvP-gearing system - just give m+ the same? Why does it always have to come with a “BUT”. Corruption vendor - BUT ROTATION. Valor-points upgrades - BUT ONLY TO 220.
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No offense but you’re just asking for free loot.
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Ah ok so getting a piece of loot which is random in a huge loot table every 2 or 3 dungeons is free loot
Dude I play since day 1 of this expansion and I’m still not capped on conquest gear. I completed my vault every single week and I didn’t miss a day PvPing.
I’m sure any dedicated mythic player would be geared if they farmed as much as I did and that’s WITHOUT valor upgrades.
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You shouldn’t have to farm 24/7 to get loot though this is the point, the conquest vendor is superior and that is why most mythic raiders are using PVP gear, don’t believe me ? Check the mythic raiders profile and look at their gear
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They play PvP exactly because of the upgrade system, not because gearing is faster.
Blizzard just fixed that for you.
Conquest gear is slow to acquire but earns good ilvl because of the rating system. Now you have one too.
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Idk maybe the fact that you don’t need to get drop to get higher ilvl on a piece/slot?
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Oooh my!
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They saw how welcomed that system was by PvP players except a few problems, hence implementing to m+ huh. Well, I’ll abuse it perfectly in arena by doubling my progress speed via ez content called m+… So thank ya I guess.
Very nice, though I’m disappointed there’s nothing for raiding in all of this, though I guess targeting specific gear pieces will be easier, you’ll just spam M0 to get the item then keep upgrading it right?
So, you’ll really only do M+ to get the achievements, then do it for the weekly cap, then do a weekly +14 for the vault roll.
IMO expand the valor point system for raiding as well, and let us upgrade raid gear in the same manner, that would be a perfect solution and wouldn’t require a vendor at all.
Because for the beginning there’s a weekly cap on valor raiding won’t be too effected, but eventually as the cap increases there will be simply no reason to raid, you could just spam m+ to get all your needed gear instead.
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Really does not help at all loot rates still poor so if you have no gear that drops what you going to upgrade ?
Also is this going to be account wide as will be pointless for mains who have if lucky 226 gear from weekly vault .
Loot is still going to be rare so its shows you did not listen to us at all .
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Well, if you only need an item to drop ONCE it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal.
Then again, if you just get the item you need in a lower Ilvl you’d need more valor to upgrade it to full, and that’s where the weekly cap could actually be a problem.
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Glad I can agree with you this time. This literally changes nothing
Yeah make us buy our gear from vendors and then make us buy the 15s boost to upgrade them. Bravo blizzard you missed our point again.
People wanted loot from the dungeons not from vendors, when you just farming tokens and then upgrade your gear endlessly thats simply kills a big part of an mmorpg. At this point just completely remove the gear from the game and just give us token which will increase our ilvl.
Honestly after this post and the previous nerfs/buff its so visible how out of touch you guys are.
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People cried for valor points since it wasn’t a thing. Even when we had titanforging, people wanted valor points for a reliable way to upgrade our gear instead of being a casino. They are not out of touch with this change at all, your comment just shows that they can literally do anything and still won’t be appreciated. If they would’ve increased drop chance without this vendor, someone else would’ve cried about the ilvl of the gear.
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They better buff enhance again really soon 
buff what I play or I quit 