Pay to win is rampant

6 years ago.

Got any recent examples?

Well at least this community member THIS year for apparently having too much gold going around, and making too much profit.

This really isn’t about what i do not see does not exist.

But again, that’s just a red flag that goes off when anyone in the game is moving around huge sums of gold.
Blizzard will always look into that - as they should.

But that’s not a targeted effort to take action against third-party gold selling. That industry gets to run its business just fine, by virtue of the fact that it still exists and that we hear of little to the contrary.

Blizzard will sometimes take action against the botting side of the business, because players express dissatisfaction toward bots, but the gold selling side of the business gets to run its course, because players have long since normalized and accepted buying gold for money as being okay. So for Blizzard that’s a non-issue that they don’t need to spend time and resources on anymore, and so they don’t.

pay 2 win does not exist in WoW
people who think that are the real clowns and need to double check what p2w means

no ammount of gear will make you invited to mythic groups
(raid gear boe is locked first month if you didnt know that )

u cant hit high PVP score while being unskilled
cause gear is normalized in this enviorment

u will not get into mythic + without rio that cant be bought
people with more than 1 brain cell will insta - kick your butt if they see anything wrong

so yeah, your funny guy

I guess Guilds are a figment of my imagination.

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It is a non issue for blizzard there are illegal ways to buy gold? What? Really? When they could have made themselves way more money with the token as the legal alternative?

I don’t know. We get into tin foiled hat theories.

Yeah, that’s an obvious cost/benefit case. The cost of pursuing action against third-party gold sellers is greater than the benefit gained to the selling of WoW Tokens.

That’s obvious.

If it was financially beneficial to Blizzard to enforce their own rules, then they would be heavily investing in this area.

But it is not.

That’s why the layoffs happen in such areas first, because they don’t make money for the company. They’re just an expense.

Huh? So when someone buys a boost they dont get rio?
Im not choosing sides here but you are listing things that are false.
You CAN buy rio.
You CAN buy Curve.
You CAN buy pvp rating.
You can even buy CE at this point.

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huh ?

so what u buy +10 run rio if you are dog and party disband in the first pull xD

there is no such a thing like p2w in wow lmao
go check throne and liberity mmo, there you will find proper p2w

You can’t buy logs, unless you let other person play on your account.

Sure, that may be true, but the fact still remains that you can buy the score and achievements.
Its the skill needed to do said content without the boost that cannot be bought.

Good luck finding m+ logs when they arent logged.
Im not saying you will get far with buying the things i listed, but the fact is that you can buy them. That is an irrefutable fact.

Can you buy CE? Yes. Will it get you anywhere? Probably not, but that doesnt mean you cant.

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show me a guy who payed to win hes way to MDI

show me a guy who payed hes way to first ansurek kill

show me a rank 1 glad who bought hes way afking on arena while booster 2v1 people xD

i get what you mean zantria, but u only win mount and title and some cosmetics
other than that, you are just a nobody and if people are fine with it ?

sure let them be losers who buy carries instead of working for them xd

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It is only staunch WoW players who will resolutely claim that WoW is not P2W by pointing out the differences in detail between it and other P2W games and obsess over definitions and meanings.

But anyone who is not a staunch WoW player, who is looking from the outside, will simply note that you can use a credit card to buy the main currency in the game.
And then that’s that.

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Dont change your own words here. You said this :

That is what i replied to. I never said anything about it being P2w or not and i didnt on purpose.
You said you cant buy rio, but you can.
It wont get you anywhere, but you can.
You can buy Curve, it wont get you anywhere, but you can.

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you can buy plane too

doesnt mean you can fly it

Exactly, so we agree.
You CAN buy rio, it just wont help you.

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my definition of winning is different

i come from actuall mmos where people who pay2 win hold hostage entire server or were so boosted you couldnt even touch them on pvp

this is not a thing in wow. u absolutelly CAN touch boosted glad and pve - wise your gear wont get you into higher keys

People still check progress and if they see you in full boe completed hc ansurek once in a boost they will still decline op. :man_shrugging:t3:

You are allowed to have any definition or opinion about P2W you want.
I merely pointed out that a part of what you said wasnt accurate.
I personally dont even give my opinion on this subject because for some reason this seems to be a very touchy one for a lot of people :joy:

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