Ofc , and not to mention summer timer (holidays ).
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the foundation of bfa is bad,no polish can save the terrible game mechanics and class design
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Why queue for LFR when you can do normal with the same faceroll difficulty and get a better reward?
Blame the players, not the game. If everyone wants a 2k rio prot war for a +10 because everything has to be a faceroll, an hour wait is a way too light of a punishment.
True, but can’t blame the players for not wanting to queue to hordemode and get chopped.
Half of the random bg you find a russian premade group, join a brawl and the system starts with massive imbalance in player numbers (15 vs 30 at tarren mill is sooo funny, thanks blizz!).
Frankly, if blizz was less cashgrabby, in recent years could have solved this by offering free transfer to big guilds, proper rebalancing of racials, and server merges.
I don’t, others do. I don’t even do normal, heroic maybe if i feel like it, I’m not into bfa raiding because it all gives terrible rewards. I’m nearly 430 so 430 base for a raid that takes hours is not enough anymore, especially since I can grind out +10 dungeons. Anyway pugged a normal to see the raid, did pretty much nothing of other raids, and tried heroic but people are so bad at this game, it’s incredible.
I never ask for rio in title,. I check it, but even without crying for rio they don’t queue cause retail is dead. Of course it has to go smooth are you high? +10 only gives 430 I don’t wanna spend hours there cause chance is high I get no loot or something I already have 430. Generally speaking 99% of the wow players are plain terrible, which is fine but not for 10+. You need rio to at least weed out the obvious low tier players.
It’s the game design everyone feels entitled to doing high end content. The best part is, all raider pugs I encounter are all using noob addons such as DBM and they still fail at mechanics, it’s sad really, but a big reason why I leave raiding, I get tired of explaining basic heroic tactics. I might try it again cause it gave me a sweet TF, but it depends, I need a new weapon can’t find it anywhere.
Bye, don’t let the door slap you on your beefs on the way out.
“I can say that if the WoW concurrent player numbers were on Steam it would be the number 1, 2, or 3 game, depending on the time of day. … Much healthier than I think people think it is. Although it’s like, really, like 70% China, so …”
https://www.twitch.tv/destiny/clip/SparklingSweetHyenaShadyLulu
https://www.twitch.tv/destiny/clip/CautiousFaithfulSmoothieKreygasm
(taken from full stream below)
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/470018615?t=8h2m49s
or
(Trigger Warning for people allergic to Asmongold)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSAlh9l-c7Q
I don’t know who the guest on Destiny’s stream is, but he seems to be portrayed as an (ex-)? employee of Blizzard. Maybe if I watched the whole stream … naah.
Let’s take it at face value, for discussion’s sake.
So ~400K concurrent. What fraction of a 24-hour day would that be equivalent to in subs? (Reminder here that not everybody no-lifes WoW.) Factor of 24, averaging 1hr/day? 9.6M subs equivalent, with just under 7M in China?
Food for thought.
Well tbh idc about this patch. I mostly play alts anyway. I haven’t even been to the new island.
So much for that content I guess.
Well, Classic is coming in a few days. Have you considered giving it a try? There is a reasonable chance that you might enjoy it, it seems to have baked in the solution exactly to the problem you described - that content is consumed too fast.
Either way, whether you decide to come to Classic or not, have fun in whatever you do.
No, not really to be honest. I’m fine with playing retail only. Still have two heritage armors to go and enjoy specs I haven’t played before.
I was replying to the OP. Are you the same person?
No but let’s say I really wanted to reply you. 
Well, it should have been obvious that my advice wasn’t for you or people like you that still find fun in retail. It was for the OP and people who feel the same way he does.
Hate to break it to you, but the world is bigger now, than it was, and the classes are pretty much the same, with some unique content when you hit Legion.
Classic never had that feel. It was a struggle against game mechanics, not a class identifier.
Well, I mean if by that you mean “They have not developed a Time Machine to make everyone 15 years younger” Then you would be right, Oh to be 30 again…
Classic was not ‘bigger’, it was not ‘exploring’ It was smaller than it is now. There was -literally-(In the correct use of the word) less to explore, It was new, it was something unprecedented, it was astounding!
15 years ago.
If people are leaving now, then they’re not the sort of people who would enjoy Vanilla… Did they ever play it?
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Despite your new elm i have to say i agree with you.
But im really happy to re play vanilla again after 14 years and half. For some time it will be a marvelous experience. To be young and enthusiastic again… a time when noone knew what it was a mmorpg…
Compleetly missing the point.
Alot of retail wow is phased.
I can stand on top of somebody because i did a quest and he didnt.
Not to mention sharding.
I encounted meaby 4 players in 5 days playing.
That is very little people.
Also classes where different.
Demon skin, aura of thorn, devotion aura, demons accauly being more then targetable dps, earning you shapeshift forms, ressurection classes where few, ank’s, seeds, regeant, dodge, weapon skill, etc.
Today i play a gaurdian druid.
In classic i play a druid.
My specc is something i am specilized in classic.
In retail it is something i am limeted too.
Just do see the difference in class design look at warlock.
Shards where things you carry in your bag, they where used for powerfull spells and not basic once’s.
Life drain, Mana drain, life tab, etc.
One of my best memories of world of warcraft was when i as a priest in a dungeon mind control the npc priest and used her mana to heal our tank.
In a single cast i took out a enemy healer and strenghted our tank.
As warlock i regular refilled my mana with the mana of my enemies.
As shaman i fish for days to get the require fish to water walk.
I scouted as eye of killrog/farsight to find my target before fighting my way through an entire dungeon.
In retail we dont have mana drain, We dont have soulshards(those shards on warlocks are self regenerating removing there value) we dont even have life tab anymore.
Classes in classic will be beter because they where different.
Not just the same copy pasted class with different animations.
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I hate it too, but eh, you can only visit the Transmog Mummy so many times before just going “I’ll suck it up” It’s the nose hole that makes it ridiculous, but then it is Troll armour, so they have to have that, given their big conks.
I was a Goth, way back before Emo even existed, I was young, but never enthusiastic. I’d settle for being young and jaded beyond my years again. The music was better back then. (Yes, I realise how much like a stereotypical old F*rt that makes me sound)
With all the transmog ive in my pack i could open a circus… now im dressing my chars just with heritages (i love the belf one)
For the music i have to agree… The best dungeons in vanilla i had it was a WC with so much wipes that i was able to hear thrice DIRT from AIC.
Seriously, another whine thread started. If people do not like the game, there is a very simple solution. Don’t play it, don’t expect sympathy on the forum because everyone plays this game for their own reason.
If you are solely looking at game content, at how ueber cool you can transmog, how far you can climb the rankings list, fine, but if you do not find what you look for, just downscale expectations a bit.
A lot of us, well, most that I know from all the years playing this game, are quite happy with any expansion because they play not just for the content but to a large extend because they meet great people from all over the world.
Don’t feel like doing WQ, no problem, it is not compulsory as NOTHING is in this game, play at your pace, if you reach a point where you could use some help, ask others, I am sure someone is more than happy to assist!
Be a bit more “human” and you will see with all the diversity of players we have you will find a reason to log in even if you don’t feel like “doing” anything 
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We’re losing another great player… How am I going to finish all these 16s and 15s in time without you bro. How am I going to get cutting edge without this great dk.
Oh right my bad it’s another whining casual who doesnt know how to play his class and he got bored of afking in capital so he decided to make a thread to get some attention.
On a side note thank you for providing accurate data aka “FROM WHAT IVE SEEN MANY PEOPLE ARE LEAVING XD”. get lost
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“Do you know how many boars it would take to level to 60 Cartman!?!”
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