People Calling lvl 10 Twink a Exploiter?

PvP balance is already bad enough as it is, but twinks add another order of magnitude to the problem and utterly ruin PvP.

I agree with @Chronormi. That quest reward is bugged and intentionally using those items while exp-locked in PvP is exploiting.

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There are faaar greater exploits when it comes to twinking than this one (some of them fixed)

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Tell me how is level 10 ( even it strong) breaking game… Is he gona participate in world first run? Is he gona beat you in arena and get glad title before you? All he is gona do is enjoy some speedruning low lvl dungeons and some low lvl pvp, which, isnt balanced at all regardles of gear, and also once he lock his exp gain he is qued with other who did same, so their gears will be mostly likely same leaving it only on unbalanced classes at level 10.

So whats exactly so gamebreaking about this?

It’s not cheating, I intentionally got the items as a twink, since that’s what you do as a twink, and theyre just rewards for normal gameplay,
but blizzard is slowly balancing the higher ilvl gear pieces so just enjoy it while it lasts.

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Twinking a character is NOT normal gameplay. Researching how to get massively overpowered items and going to get them is NOT normal gameplay. Level 10 is NOT the level cap and gear shouldn’t be so massively inflated at that level. Gear progression is a way of continuing character improvement at the level cap, not at lower levels.

And what do you do with those items as a twink? You wipe other players out in one hit, and run around pretending like you’ve got leet skills when actually you’re a massive noob who doesn’t have the skill to PvP like other players.

It’s unacceptable and you should all have your characters rolled back and possibly be banned depending on the levels of cheating you’ve gone to along with your excuses and denial.

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uhhh making use of an oversight blizzard made is pretty much a definition of exploiting.

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It’s not. An exploit is usually a case of finding an unintended consequence and abusing it. The lvl 50 gear is not unintended - it’s the quest reward. It may be horrible design, but that is on blizz.

He isn’t the worst twink by a distance. Go to Xpoff .com if you want a look at how to do it ‘properly’.

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Should Blizzard really be spending time to balance level 10 content tho?

Other people who also locked their exp and thus also attempt to use similar stuff to gain an advantage?

Not at all, PvE low level content isn’t tuned, was never tuned and will never be tuned. Remember prot pally one shotting everything with crusaders shield at lvl 15? Remember Shield Bash removing 30% of a boss’ hp in Ragefire Chasm?

Who cares if a person that joins your group to fight AI enemies deals too much damage and thus carries you through the dungeon?

This is actually a real problem though. A game called world of WARcraft should attempt to have somewhat balanced PvP right from the start. They have the resources but not the will.

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Yeah about that…

WoW is a PvE focused game. PvP was an addition a little bit later in and ever since it’s been implemented 15 something years ago, it’s not been balanced.

They can’t even balance PvE properly, PvP is even more of a nightmare to balance and every time they add a new class, there’s things inherently wrong with it so PvP becomes even more of a balance nightmare.

They might have the resources, but not the skill, rather than the will. There’s just not enough brainpower (or whatever necessary, be it due to lack of employees or lack of competence) at Blizzard to balance M+, Raiding and PvP. Not even on max level and now you ask of them to also balance it on level 10 as well?

Get out of here. If a level 10 exp locked BG gets “ruined” by people, the other exp locked people will quickly catch on and use the same methods. That’s how it’s going to be balanced, by everyone doing the same broken thing.

The ‘xp locked’ brackets are up to 20-29. That’s half the game.
You shouldn’t make excuses for a multibillion dollar company like this. They could fix this and they should. It’s not even that hard. I don’t really know why anyone would whiteknight for them over this issue - they aren’t going to offer you a job.

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Yup. Because back before the level squish, 1-60 was also half the game, right? And especially BGs from 1-60 with level locked players. Half the game.

If you’re trolling, make it less obvious next time. This one is just bad.

I’m not. I’m saying they suck at their job, did you not catch on to that?

Sure, but honestly, who cares? Again, this affects only level locked low level characters in a game where the entire focus lies on the max level content. This isn’t half of the game and if you truly believe that half of the game is level locked PvP, well maybe you should boot up the game on a different character once in a while and find out that there’s a lot more to it.

Will they fix it? Probably. Is it a pressing issue? Hell no. Is it an exploit? Even bigger hell no.

You are an angry little goblin and you should go and have a coffee. If you can’t grasp why a game called world of warcraft should have some attempt at balance in pvp for all levels, then we are done.

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Nah get out of here.

I mean, you also can’t expect people to not equip the gear they simply got during a chain quest.

Is not like they had to go trough 28493 questionable procedures to get that ilvl 50 items.

It is Blizzard fault for not fixing it. They fixed HoA and Azerite pieces drop already, is not like they did not know about those pieces.

Yeah, actually when you look at the tiny number level 50 items that are being given to a level 10 character, yeah, they DID go through questionable procedures by researching and finding and collecting these rare items with the intention of using them like some kind of godmode cheat.

Looking at this from another angle, but the same disapproving stance, people who play low level twinks are so bad at PvP, they want to reduce the amount of buttons they’ve got to press and enemy spells they have to think about, while at the same time having massive advantages like 250% better iLvl.

At the level cap which is where we all end up without locking XP, there are loads of spells and abilities for us to use, then there are enemy things we need to watch out for and react to like CC, mitigation, defenses etc, but at level 10 twinks are like “Haha my cat walked on the keyboard and killed you lol”.

People twinking are basically just playing a 2 button character and their opponents have very few class abilities or opportunities to counter their ham-fisted dumb-luck overpowered facerolling. I get it. I really do. I understand the need some players have, to compensate in some way for their complete lack of PvP skill, but in the end if everybody did what they do, they wouldn’t be doing it because it would be a level playing field and they’d need to find some other crutch to lean on. Twinking is like riding a mountain bike on a basketball court with training wheels on and calling it mountain biking. Noobs. Oh and again, it is exploiting.

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Completing a legion zone = questionable procedures.
Kappa.

I made a 10 mage just out of curiosity, never queued a bg and never will.
Not everyone with a twink care about pvp stop generalizing.

Oh and care to explain why Blizzard did not ban those twinks that got heart of azeroth before Blizz put the requirement of level 35/40 on it?

Or care to explain why even after fix HoA they let those twinks keep the azerite pieces they got? Even if they should not have them at all?

If you’re not going to abuse it in PvP or PvE, what’s the point of having that gear? You roleplay a character who reads out their gear stats?

Blizzard don’t ban people for exploiting. Just look at all the bots and complaints about it, as well as keycloning which is clearly against Blizzard’s own policies which they choose not to enforce.

As for letting people keep gear they shouldn’t have, again it’s Blizzard’s game. They can make all the bad decisions they like.

While I agree with what you are saying he has clearly used a bug oversight to give himself an advantage in pvp, if he was levelling I dont think anyone would care but the fact he has done it to clearly wreck people in low end pvp clearly shows he knows what he was doing and has exploited the system.

But Blizz will blame him and ban him for using it.

I never said I did not use it in PvE, also because you basically have to PvE to get that gear anyway.

I mostly played to try out the power you could get at level 10, personally i got bored pretty quickly.

Like yeah i could go in a dungeon and push like 95% or group damage but it gets boring the third time you do it.

If you wanna wreck people you will have to level up, unless you wanna wait 45 mins for a twink bg.

If this was the case they would have punished people with HoA/Azerite Pieces. Instead they simply put a level requirement on HoA and let people keep Azerite pieces, so doubt they are gonna punish people for it.

Since you can get this gear from different sources it may as well be obtained by player that are simply playing the game.

You don’t get azerite pieces until you’re lvl 50 now they have been converted to bog standard stat rewards. I’ll see if I can get you proof.