People Calling lvl 10 Twink a Exploiter?

Ye but it is still a level 58 pieces they could get.

I don’t remember the name of the mage but this person have 58 ilvl shoulders equipped at lvl 10.

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Oh ok I see, I wasnt aware of this but it still does give an unfair advantage which will cause issues.

its callled blizzard incompetence
and as much as i want the troll :stars: paladin :stars: to be banned for ‘‘creative use of game mechanics’’ he wont.

I like it!

Here are some more enterprising Level 10 twinks …

Might even be worth logging in during prepatch - not something I do much - to see where I can get with one. How does it feel to play? :slight_smile:

As others have said, Blizzard will probably nerf it eventually, but fun meantime.

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So its intended as level 10 to get ilvl 50 gear while the highest i’ve gotten on my Level 33 gnome is ilvl 37?

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Apparently so! This is an oversight by blizzard, not an exploit. To be an exploit, there have to be some shady steps involved, like logging in and out 5 times before you turn the quest in or something like that. If you just play the game and get these rewards, it’s not exploiting - blizzard can’t ban players for their bad design.

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Who are you to tell me what is normal gameplay and what not, twinking has been in the game since the beginning of wow, and a lot of ppl enjoy it, and spend a lot of time trying to get BiS gear for that bracket.

Everyone can play the game how they want, if they wanne do end game raids, so be it, if they wanne do pvp or arena, go for it, if they wanne RP, you do what you want, and if they wanne twink they can do that aswell, heck, you can even do all of them if you want, so please dont tell me what is normal gameplay and what is not, all of it is normal.

And as for what we do on these twinks? we duel eitother, we do bg’s, dungeons, whatever, whenever i want a break from end content i jump on an alt, which can be a twink,and if you queue for bg you queue with ppl that also have their exp locked so theyre twinks aswell.

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My first thought was the same as Hyelph’s - that it’s not intended - but on second thought, it may be … perhaps not quite intended, but accepted and inevitable, given the partitioned scaling in the expansion zones.

Anyhow, there has always been twinking, one way or another. Nothing new here.

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Which is an exploit lol? Using glitch’s or bugs instead of reporting tends to earn a reward :wink: How about those bombs on world first Lich King huh huh

Let’s change the question. So it’s intended as level 10 to complete a quest available for level 10 characters and receive an equip a quest reward usable at level 10? The answer is yes, no matter how big the ilevel of the item is, earning a quest reward on a quest available to his level can’t be anything but intended, maybe it is an oversight on the developers, but it can’t be qualified as an exploit, because it is not the player faults nor he has gone outside of the normal gameplay by just complete as level 10 a quest available to level 10 characters.

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A tiny number of players twink. An even smaller number have those level 40-50 items.

It’s highly unusual, if you’d like a different term instead of “not normal”. :slight_smile:

Twinking and collecting those items seems awfully long-winded, considering what you’re going to do once you get them. You’re not doing anything with those items that you couldn’t do without them. The only reason to have them is to give yourself a colossal advantage over other players who don’t have them, and there’s the rub. That advantage is unfair, and as pointed out by Chronormi above, it’s against the license agreement. :woman_shrugging:

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Never said he deserved to get banned

and with that logic, what about people who abuses items that havent been scaled down at all to oneshot everything? is that just ‘‘a quest reward’’?

Can’t be an exploit because anyone can do it by playing the game. You can also get level 40 drops from WoD.

They don’t deserve to be banned, they don’t deserve any punishment, and they don’t deserve to be called cheaters or exploiters because they are not, they have not breaked any rules. The rules are the rules you like it or not.

It is the same. That is totally Blizzard’s fault, not those people, those people have not break any rules. In this case Blizzard must fix this mistakes but making those items scale correctly or change the items to have an apropaite minimun level, specially the ones already in game, but the ones who used them has not done anything againts the rules.

You seem like the type that if someone got shot, you would blame the gun

But fair enough

A weird example given that shooting anyone is illegal in any country in the world. So, if someone shoots me I would blame the shooter himself because he has broken the law and that means he is a criminal. The rules are the rules you like it or not. The rules and laws define what actions are legal and what actions are illegal, that is a fact, not an opinion.

I used to be into twinking and I don’t agree. For some gearing up the twink and making the best character you can be at a certain lvl is the fun part. Yes, it’s long winding and you don’t get much out of it if end game is all you care about.

It’s a true test of patience and creativity that is comparable to feats of strength like becoming a neutral max lvl panda or doing Ironman.

Not all twinks are doing pvp and if they do, the bg for xp locked are separate from regular players.

There used to be a community of xp locked players doing old raids and dungeons. The TBC and Wrath ones were popular. Blizzard have given us timewalking now so I don’t think there are many such players still around.

A great advantage in twinking is they are very long lasting. You’re not forced to gear up in every xpac and patch. So twinks aren’t very well liked by Blizzard either so enjoy the lvl 10 twinking while it lasts.

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No, it isn’t. Blizzard recently changed the way this lvl50 gear scales, so that people can’t get it at a low level any more.

People that did previously get it still have it at ilvl50 though. Know what that means? It means Blizzard don’t care.

He didn’t glitch or bug the game to get those items, he got them via playing the actual game. They were quest rewards, that’s all.

So would you argue that raiding mythic is unfair as well? I mean you go out of your way to raid mythic and gain items that are higher itemlevel than other items, only to gain an advantage.

Have you read the quote, tho?

cheats; i.e. methods not expressly authorized by Blizzard, influencing and/or facilitating the gameplay, including exploits of any in-game bugs, and thereby granting you and/or any other user an advantage over other players not using such methods;

These quests are part of Blizzards very own questchain they themselves have put into the game.

Everybody can get them without using any roundabout methods.

It’s neither influencing nor facilitating the gameplay.

It’s not against EULA, it’s not an exploit, it’s Blizzard having an oversight for certain quests.

Nobody will get banned for these items, no matter how much you argue they should or will get banned.

The items will soon get downscaled or level restricted, because they’re very obviously not intended to be as strong as they are, if they haven’t been already downscaled or level restricted.

It’s only an exploit if it’s a bug and not intended design, and that can be only confirmed by Blizzard. What to do until Blizzard confirms that? There are 2 options:

  1. If it’s too good to be true, it’s probably an exploit
  2. Exploit early, exploit often