People who don't enchant/gem their gear - why?

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This has been my pet peevee for quite a while - I join some pug for M+ or heroic raid and I see this randomly undergeared andy who has no single enchant and empty sockets.
It’s not one or two or whatever - in a 20 man group you can find a couple people doing this.
I know some will yell “why bother - I will replace the gear soon and the content is easy”. Sure but it’s a toxic logic - if content is easy you don’t need 480 for hc - you can do in 460 because why need extra damage and power? Also, every day we have forum threads where people cry they never get new gear in group loot etc… so maybe you are not replacing your items that often after all?
And most importantly - if you are undergeared for a content and you get into a group, maybe silightly upgrading/polishing your gear would be nice?
This is also relevant for consumables - low rank phials are cheap but if everyone uses/doesn’t use them in a raid, it’s a significant difference.

Anyhow, back to the question - why people don’t enchant the gear when Dragonflight specifically increased the accessibility of enchants to insane levels never seen before.
Let me go to AH and check “Right now” - the cheapest DF rank 3 ring enchants are LITERALLY 5 gold - this is basically below mats cost and just slightly above vendor price.
the bis ring enchants are 100-117 gold. Oh, nobody can afford these.
Weapon enchants - oh I can’t afford 5k sophic devotion - fair point actually! It is expensive. But then I look at AH and I can find rank 1 weapon enchants for… 90 gold :smiley: Come on… You can’t slap a cheap enchant on your weapon for 90 gold?
Leg enchant - vibrant spellthread r 1 or r2 is 1 gold or 2 gold KEK
wrist enchants from 5 g to 150 g.
waking stats chest enchant - 50 g.
cloak enchants 5g to 134 g.

The only “somewhat annoying” cost can be neck gemming but it’s still 650 g for adding 2
sockets and then you can slap 2 gems that range from literal 5 g to 600 g - depending on your budget.
And yet, every raid will have people sporting HEROIC TIER neck with no single gem added.
And no single enchant on any piece of gear and we’ve already established that enchants can cost pennies if you settle for r1/r2

Yes - I’ve found out players aren’t “Rich” on a regular basis but the cost outlined above is ridiculously low. You can do 1-2 dragonriding world quests and fully enchant your gear XD

So why… why are people not enchanting their gear and going to group content, higher difficulties.
And sure - enchants don’t “double” your output - but it all adds up. Idk - people will cry to get a couple ilvls more but enchants and gems literally add a power level equal to some ilvl.
In gear simming a lower ilvl item with a gem will often sim better than higher ilvl item with no gem. Just saying.
So what are you trying to show exactly by not enchanting gear? That you don’t care? That you can’t do 2 world quests?
Again - you don’t replace your gear every day and if you are undergeared you are actually more expected to show you “try” and at least enchant your gear.

And frankly I cba talking about consumables - they are cheap as well - low rank phials start with 5 g - sure not BiS but always something and since we don’t talk about mythic raiding here… why not snatch a couple 5 gold phials?

There is only ONE enchant that I find silly in cost and effect - the shadowed belt clasp. 4-9k gold for a bit of stamina. Luckily I have belts with embellishments so I bought it on my mains once and I don’t have to buy new ones but this is literally the only enchant I wouldn’t ever expect anyone to have. This one is for hardcore M+/mythic people who have too much gold to burn.

Other stuff - you are trolling if you can’t spend less than 400 g to enchant gear.

And from some personal PoV - I even enchant personal gear with cheap enchants while levelling or whatever - since everything adds up. shrug

To reiterate - gemming/enchanting your gear is literally “The least you could do” to improve your performance by a small margin at low cost even or especially if you are a low skilled player - extra versa/mastery is just math that will increase your dps/healing log every time.

PS: I did raidbots simming for my mage 477 ilvl - so no enchants = minus 15k dps. but ranks 1 enchants and cheapest gems give extra 6k dps.

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When I just started playing in SL I didn’t know about enchanting or gems. The game doesn’t really tell you about it. I knew about legendary, because there was more information and excitement about it.

Now I have a newbie friend who plays and I had to tell him about enchants and other consumables.

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Lazy, nothing else to it… they’re not even expensive, with the exception of Q3 Wep enchants.

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this is a somewhat fair point but if you are getting into a heroic raid without knowing about enchants it’s kind of an achievement in itself - I’m afraid most people are just cheapskates/lazy idk

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I admit i am lazy to look up another guide to know what slots i can enchant and with whatever item. On the other side i am not doing any content above my ilvl.

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I don’t enchant/gem a lot because i don’t do group content. I do slap some on my main because it’s my main. My enormous army of alts just has to do without. I used to enchant/gem all my alts, because i maxed all professions myself. But ever since Blizz started messing with professions i gave up on them.

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Isn’t the buckle the most costly? It’s a weird one coz to make them it costs quite a lot, I was stoked to be able to craft it and then saw the material requirements lul

Edit by buckle I mean the belt clasp sorry

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this is fair - but my complaint is mostly about people doing group content - mainly heroic raids and 18+ and more M+ :3

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True, I learned it later from a guild I joined. I wish blizz explained these things in exile reach for example.

About your topic, I think many people just want tma carry and choose ignorance in the game.

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It’s same slots for all classes and enchants just a bit different.

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Yeah like i said; i am lazy to find the guide for the list.
But it also requires a special type of person to care about peoples enchant when you are already heavily overgear the content in the first place.

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It takes 1 minute

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It’s a waste of gold for not much dps gain, not going to spend thousands of gold on weapon enchants and gems that I’ll have to throw away again as soon as I get a new weapon, then I rather do less damage instead of throwing gold out the window.

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To you :+1:

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Tell me you didn’t read my post without telling me you didn’t read my post - I literally counted the cost and pointed out cheap weapon enchants start at LITERAL 90 gold and full gear enchant from scratch can be done for less than 2k gold so yeah get out.

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I rather walk around without enchants than bronze enchants. I either do or don’t, not something in between, that irks me.

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It’s not just DPS, and already explained it’s not “little” DPS gain, avoidance is good to have as well. You can get speed enchant on boots too

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I think your opening post is not really showing you are about these types of content, where i do understand what you mean. But in your opening post you even mention leveling.

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Google “consumables (insert spec)” and there you go…

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Yeah, don’t really discuss with a guy like that - he is the exact problem outlined in my OP. These people are insufferable and basically should be kicked on the spot.

Again - if you can’t spend 500 gold, literally, to enchant gear in any manner, you belong in the streets, not the raid group.

Yeah, talking about my personal point of view - to underline the fact I don’t understand how you can go into a heroic raid unenchanted. Also I clearly mention my annoyance with “people in a 20 man heroic raid group having no enchants” - Idk how clear and verbatim I have to be about everything to reach every reader. come on…

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