You mean like Selling Mythic dungeon Bosts and gear up runs and profiting that way i can see that becoming a major problem but the thing is that has become a profitable market these days when the gold inflation hit ever Since Legion and for some people that is the only way to make a quick gold cause AH is filled with Bots and overpriced crap etc.
I was thinking of more game developers and real life cash tbh.
Oh lol sorry i am sleepy today havent had my coffe yet so i interpreted wrong lol ![:rofl:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/rofl.png?v=6" ":rofl:")
Laughs at himself
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Asmongold read it right when he looked at some of the feedback that comes into the forums. I.e. people moaning about LGBT representation, or getting ganked, or in cataclysm when the dungeons were too hard etc… Despite running at them in green loot.
The playerbase lost credibility too when they came at the Dev with that stuff.
That being said… There is some very very legitimate rage at this new expansion 
I think the Garrison was and still is a great feature.
Imo the main problem with it isn’t the small handfull of crafting resources and gold you could harvest each day but the fact you could do that on multiple characters.
The garrison could have been a very nice permanent addition to your account if you were only able to have 1 per account, to be shared among all your characters from a certain level.
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So you guys dont like bfa but you are still subbed? Are you addicted?
Each person has their reason to “hate” the game.
What was this thread again about?![:roll_eyes:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/roll_eyes.png?v=6" ":roll_eyes:")
You are not part of the internet cool club if you don’t hate on everything these days. People posting negative stuff on reddit for upvotes and youtubers and twitch streamers have started clickbaiting and snagging all views they can by jumping on the popular hatetrain that is going on right now. This hatething is not exlusive to WoW either, it affects basically everything now. Getting really tiresome.
Whatever happened to the good old: don’t like it, dont play it?
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When you have spend 14 years like me and see where the Games it is now i have all right to be upset.
Before we had a learning curve and a progression curve, now we have neither of both everything is tie to the rng.
Why wrath wad consider best expac because he aimed the Games for both Side Casual and hardcore player.
Yes heroic Dungeons where a Little joke for hardcore player, but was good for Casual player. Both had their way on a harmony way, now again rng dictate everything because they want creat exitement.
Before we had a end goal and accomplissement.
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How do you think it becomes mass opinion in the first place?
There’s no smoke without fire.
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Yeah. Not to the game though, but to the friends I made it in.
This, however, is a volatile setup. It’s only a matter of time before they get fed up and leave, and when they do, we will fall like dominoes.
Question is, then, if we can find something else to play together. I’m going to go with “yes, but in smaller groups” - which would be sad, but at least it won’t be totally ruined.
If Blizzard does not want this to happen, things need to change.
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The ship happened. Simple.
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Addiction happened which makes a person unable to quit if he does not like it anymore.
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I don’t hate BFA. Hate is a strong word. I love WoW still.
I dislike BFA and the direction the game is going. I dislike the systems invented purely to keep you logging in, regardless of the fun you have while doing them. The game is shallow, no complexity, no depth. The devs focus more on quantity than on quality. “Gameplay first” is a long forgotten motto at Blizzard.
I dislike the layers of RNG to get a useful piece of gear. I dislike the “constant progression” and scaling because in my opinion its more harm than good. You are NEVER finished with anything. That’s a bad thing. Accomplishment, Achievement and Pride when reaching those things is why I play this game. Only relevant achievement in the game that I can reach is Cutting Edge. All other “personal achievements and goals” I can reach are numbers on third party websites.
Regression systems, rental abilities, etc.
And yes, this is not good game design. When you realise that all they do right now is just so they can milk you, you can see the full picture. It appears that gamers worldwide have realised that companies in recent times (not just Blizzard) are doing everything they can to milk gamers. And they started to react to this. I am as happy as I can be seeing this. It just shows them that we (gamers) will not take anything and we are certainly not as stupid as they think.
As the guy on Reddit who wrote that very elaborate letter to Blizzard, they don’t see you as a player, but as a payer. Let that sink in for a while.
While a company needs to make money, it also needs to produce quality content to do so, it needs to show respect, care for their playerbase. We have none of that. The company needs to not be greedy.
The game clearly is not created with fun in mind. Not unless you are a gambling addict.
Why do I play it you might ask? Because of my friends, who are quickly dwindling in numbers. Once they are gone, I will be gone too.
To the “If you don’t like, don’t play it” guys - This is not the end goal of any of us who complain. I complain because I love WoW, I grew up with this game, I WANT it to be good. The decision to just quit, without trying to do anything to change things simply means that you don’t care that much. I do care. I don’t want to stop playing this game, I am being forced to do so.
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people hate the gameplay rather then the game itself.
you can see this on blizzards other videos like the cinematic with positive reaction, while videos like 8.1 survival guide gets the most hated reaction for it’s gameplay.
people are bored of the gameplay.
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Absolutely. Very few are bored of the universe or the art. It’s all about that gameplay. It just has no larger progressive structure and that makes it feel grindy.
Yes but I bought a 6 month sub I haven’t logged on in the last 2-3 (not counting exactly) weeks and ive uninstalled the game. I do not have it on a renewing subscription either. I have 5 and a bit months left of playtime on my sub I won’t be using it.
I hate BFA.
Sounds about right if the gameplay is not fun the game is not fun current class design is so boring that it is more fun to just sit and watch out the window and wait maybe there is a squirrel that runs by.
I don’t hate the game i hate the road they are taking the game and it just feels that i am not the audience anymore with the decisions they are making.
Or, this is just totally random idea, they have their own ideas and opinions on how the game used to be good and is not anymore to them?
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