As the title says, I want to discuss overall performance of these 2 games from technical points.
Honestly, if WoW usually was the go-to low to mid-end pc friendly, I believe that it got way too bloated to run properly. Any even slightly populated zone dips the fps to 30-40 fps from 120-140. Any major city, or just SL zones overall perform far worse then I could even imagine, and 9.1 just made it worse, where the game turns into a literal slideshow with 7-10 fps. That is not a rig problem, mind you, as many people experience this problem constantly.
On the other hand we have FF14, where every area currently is highly populated and the games graphics are quite a bit more complex compared to WoW. Despite that, i am yet to experience a single dip in performance, as the game steadily has 60-70 fps on my rig. Granted, it is not 120-140 that i usually got in WoW during BFA and Legion, but still, it is solid and steady fps.
A lot of issues with wow stem from 2 things.
1- The existence of too much RNG aspects in combat. These random number generated stuff which in the previous expansion came from all the random procs of items and trinkets, and in this expansion are basically the same+ their decision to create a 5% range for damage done, results in too many calculations per hit and that just makes things laggy and slow. And it affects fps as well.
2- The engine is ancient. The gameās 17 years old. It canāt handle better graphics. Slowly but surely, it keeps getting worse and worse with fps and other issues.
are not every zone in FF separated by a loading screen ?
FF14 came out a lot later and therefore it has a more modern and better engine. The WoW engine is ancient and is bloated like you said. They have been adding so much new graphics effects including ray tracing that performance wise the game is a complete joke.
If you would code WoW from scratch with the exactly same graphics but clean code you would literally have 500 FPS easily on a PC that would normally only give you 100 FPS. The only reason the game runs so badly is the bloated code that has been modified and added to so often over the years.
Good point, actualy. The graphical fidelity of the game suffered a lot with blizzards constant unwarranted desire to make the game look ābetterā. Yes, the games looks pretty now, but a) at what cost? and b) the time and resources that were used to update the games graphics every expansion could have been used to actually make the core gameplay loop and the overall complexity better. To clarify, Iām not saying the game shouldnāt have had updates to its graphics, itās just that they shouldnāt have gone to such drastic lenghts in doing so, sacrificing the games integrity and fidelity.
No? It doesnāt even has support for dx12.
Yes, there is zone separation in FF14. This could be contributing to stability, in a way. That being said, these zones are massive and are packed with players, constantly performing various activities, with virtually no input lag and/or fps drop.
I can run up to 8 copies of wow on my pc, and only 3 on FF14ā¦ it hit my gpu hard.
Some rng is good for gameplay as long as there are mitigating factors, and not everything is up to chance.
But if every spec was static like ret pally with no divine purpose or empyrean power it would get boring very fast.
At least it does for me, i am not a fan of 123 type rotation, i like it when i get stormstrike procs, or soul fragments or ice lances procs or pyroblasts etc.
Non-issue if youāre using a SSD.
Engine is not ancient. They massively upgrade the engine each expac. The code tho. The code is a mass. And that is where most problems lies and also the biggest problem with implementing player housing.
Also for OP I donāt really get why people need 144fps for an mmo. I get it for race games and fps but not really for an mmorpg itās the least noticeable genre. Sure it had to above 60 for sure. But I think most pc will be able to handle it.
Because itās significantly smoother.
It just looks better, not required, but definitely better. Itās not just about competition like in shooter games, 144+ just looks smoother and better.
High fps means no noticeable drop in the fps when thereās a graphically intensive scene. If youāre averaging 60fps before such a scene those drops are pretty damn noticeable.
Maybe itās just me, but FF14 has awful aliasing problems.
You have a monster pc? My dies with 2 wow copies 
I have no idea because i have never tried ff, anyway i tend to just turn off aa it makes the scene look blurrier, i rather deal with some jagginess but more detain and higher fps than aa. Anyway when i do eventually upgrade my pc and get a 4 k monitor, i will not need aa either way.
you got to remember ff14 was designed as a ps3 game first.
Digital foundry has actually just done a huge video on all platforms ps3 , ps4 , ps5 and PC last week actually. So do check that out.
You will notice it still uses that PS3 game engine with slight shadow/lighting effects improved. It also use dynamic variable resolution so even in very high populated areas the resolution does drop to keep fps smooth.
WoW is a 19 year old engine , yes itās 16 yrs old since the game came out but was in dev for a long time. So WoW/ Blizzās engine is alot like Bethesdaās creation engine, just a frankenstein of a game engine with mods and additions and stitches.
Did you run the other copy on the lowest settings and DX11 Legacy mode?
My card is really old my good one blew up and itās impossible to get hold of a new one atm.
Rest of pc is i7-7700K 4.2GHz Kaby Lake, 32gig ram and an SSD.
I donāt exactly āneedā fps in an mmo. Itās just bizzare to have a game that honestly doesnāt look like much compared to other games on the market, a game that can give you 120-140 fps in some zones choke and die the moment the population in these zones goes double digit. There is no such thing in FF14 though, which is why Iām probably going to switch. Honestly, so many people talk about how the game is more fun and all, Iām really switching cause the game is literally more playable. I also tried out SWTOR and got some pleasent performance there too. Maybe Iāll come back to WoW in a few months to check things out and progress the story.
Can we please stop these threads.
WoW is nothing like ff14
And FF14 is nothing like wow.
Its not better,
Its not worse.
Its just there
Its an MMORPG like wow and thats there it ends.
Play FF14
Play WoW
but please stop this