Pet Peeve #INFINITY - Thanos gonna cry

Which weapon do you use IC, then?

Also, I’m willing to bet that you did not, in fact, laugh your behind off.

I agree with Lonecreek in the sense that I think we should adhere to the fact that this specific set - IC - is very limited in availability.

But it doesn’t really matter. I don’t mind people using artifacts in RP, either. Ultimately all items our characters wear are approximations; there are only so many items available ingame, but the lore offers far more variety. So someone wearing the heritage armour but just saying it’s an armour suit of their own inspired by the heroes’ garb - like what people do with artifacts - is alright, for example. Or just saying it is reminiscent of that armour by coincidence.

That said this is an awful attitude. RP is cooperative. You have the final say over your character (which I think everyone already knows, so it’s kind of weird to boast about it), but this is being needlessly dismissive.

No it doesn’t, that’s the point. You don’t know. Those are expansions of the universe, as are mine.

Save for Black temple and ICC (And a few others?), most of the bosses were defeated by 1 faction raiders. It doesn’t matter what you think, they are canon.

It doesn’t matter if the raid is available for both factions, point is still that canonically there’s only 1 or more folks who do it IC and your guy unfortunately isn’t in that list so you should get those gear pieces off if you want to go down the pragmatic route here.

BY THE WAY, if your assumption is that the “hero” who gets the belf heritage set has done ALL these feats, that’s another lie there since we actually know that the hero he adresses couldn’t have done ALL the feats in the past (Kill all the bosses in vanilla, BC, wotlk), since some of them were faction specific! So it could be ANYONE. It could be your hero who does world quests. Could be a hero who kills murlocs. Could be a hero who is fighting to save azeroth. Doesn’t matter.

The gear that drops from those raids is still very much canon, regardless of how you try and twist it. Again, if you want to go down the route of black and white, better be coherent with it!

Doesn’t matter! That’s again expanding on the idea. Were they made by others? Replicas? Or did they farm the raid with some time-and-space magic?

No it isn’t. The requirement is that you need to be:

Exalted.
High enough level.

Again, if you have a proof that Lor’themar calls out specifically a guy out who has done these tasks you claim, then show them here.

If not, that’s a case done.

I’m a priest, I can’t really use druid artifacts, now can I, Lonecreek.

But on my druid I have basically no issue using the transmog so I’m cool.

Oh yeah, I use the Fangs cat appearance IC and ain’t nobody stopping me :cat:

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I want a troll druid that uses the neon forms, but i just don’t have the space!

Peeve: Blizz, i need more character slots.

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What I meant is that the gameplay and lore are often separated on many occasions. This is why Undead and Void Elf Priests are able to use holy/discipline (I am aware Undead can use the Light, but it hurts them so much that it’s impractical) for, again, gameplay reasons. Before Legion I knew Demon Hunter roleplayers who used the Warglaives of Azzinoth on the notion that they were the only glaive models available, though of course they didn’t actually present them as such.

Then you have all the artifacts from Legion that had countless appearances, and since it was the only weapon you had for the entirety of the expansion there was plenty of leeway to use them IC for the sake of practicality.

So it’s headcanon. Gotcha.

This is literally my point. The raids were done by a specific faction yet, gameplaywise, the other faction can still do them. Therefore the raids we see aren’t the canon raid.

I made no claims as to how they were made or why they are available. Only that they are available to people other than the raiders. It is therefore alright to use them because, regardless of why, they are available to others.

The playercharacter is the hero of Azeroth. The artifact wielder. The commander of the garrison. When you do that questline and receive that outfit, you do it as the playercharacter. There aren’t a dozen different versions of the character you play as. There is one.

The sass.

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Which is the case with the raids. Or the fact mages can teleport to Draenor when that world is cut off and has been since the expac’s end. I’m glad we agree. However, nothing indicates that the gameplay and lore are separate for the heritage gear.

Hey! Lets ban Every Heritage set IC now on. You aren’t allowed to use it unless you are Champion of the Azeroth, Best Friends with Magni and Saved Azeroth multiple times. It’s not your ancestors who you are honoring. No no. You must be Champion for no reason.

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This whole discussion takes me back to the start of WoD where an orc player made a topic demanding nobody but Laughing Skull RPers use the Laughing Skull cosmetic helmet.

Why can’t that same logic be used for the heritage gear? I use the Highmountain heritage set IC because it’s a good representation of the race I play to express the culture.

This means I can’t wear my mish-mash of the Mag’har color variants for my Orc, because he is not THE Champion, but only a wandering nomad?

Well darn… I still want the pants though, because I like the leather look to them.

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Because the examples I named are clear, and displayed by Blizzard. We ourselves should not be choosing what to see as canon and what to see as gameplay. That’s dangerous territory for any RPer who RP’s publically.

Lonecreek, you’re the only one here having problems with it, perhaps take that in mind and ask yourself “Maybe I’m wrong.”

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Canonically I am correct. Prove me wrong.

Oh man, I remember that. Didn’t he also turn out to be one of… those LS Rpers?

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Canonically there’s no source one way or the other to prove if replicas are possible, so neither side is canonically correct or incorrect.

But the thing is that you are ruining RP with your “Ideals” of Heritage set usage IC. You are pretty much policing if you are allowed to wear this and that.

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Not sure what you mean by that. I do remember he was called out because, up until the LS mask was available, he had been using a troll mask in stead.