Pet Peeve: The Undying

Was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek comment tbh. In my mind the naga should obviously be pompous as hell given their origins. But then that doesn’t seem to be the case.

Maybe after 10,000 years under the sea (:lobster:) they changed their habits, Azshara excluded. We don’t really know much about what they do down there other than hang out and mess about with the other ocean races.

It is however absolute ridiculous that Azshara seems so proud to show off Nazjatar when it’s a pile of ruins and corals. Like please.

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Now I’m imagining the first boss as a sort of underwater bossfight, her crawling around on the ceiling, stealthed, ready to ambush someone with a quick poison sting to the spine.

I thought Nazjatar was going to be really kinda nonsensical. Like Suramar underwater, with a bunch of delusional highborne hosting balls in Azshara’s honour. Theatres and really grandiose architecture, that sorta thing. I can only assume that’s behind the gate and Azshara is really indifferent to the immediate world outside her palace.

I literally just showed you what actual Naga architecture is.

You don’t drop your enemies on your house. You drop them on your doorstep.

Let’s be fair, the smart move would be not to drop them anywhere, but swim and ambush them from the water.

Also it’s Azshara dropping us, not the entire Naga civilization as a whole.

Until we see the raid, we can only speculate. There’s no proof that there is any grandiose city at the palace as of right now. Few naga buildings here and there aren’t really any proof or indication of this.

Edit: Nevermind, Elenthas showed it.

Naga elites wasn’t too bad when there’s a lot of others doing it since you can just all group tag it and the respawn rate was high+close together.

Would be nice if they’d explored a difference in naga vs. azshara attitudes but I guess not.

With regards to the palace…

(recommend mute because “bored youtube man” isn’t my jam)

I’m not seeing any city though. It looks cool but it’s not a city. In fact it’s kind of just…on its own.

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There’s a lot at the western part of the map. I just formed a group and got it done in about 5 minutes.

The bounty quests are kinda mind-numbing but ultimately not really a big deal if you know where to look, in my experience.

also nazjatar is honestly close to what i pictured it to be so as usual, i have the biggest brain in the room

Yeah, I get it. I think the problem is player hype regarding what we assumed Nazjatar was going to look like in-game compared to what was delivered. That’s as much a fault of ours as it is theirs.

If it’s right that we have been dropped on the doorstep, then that’s a bit of a lame delivery for the zone tbh. I get that Blizzard don’t have the resources to put a whole city in the game, but maybe some of it? If you put us on the doorstep, let us get our foot in the door. Seems like we go straight from the doorstep into the master bedroom without passing through any of the living areas.

We go straight to the palace without seeing this supposed grand naga civilization.

If we’re on the doorstop then why is Azshara so proud when we arrive to show us what’s there? “Behold, Nazjatar!” Behold what? A couple of naga buildings among ruins?

For clarification I’m not saying I don’t like how the zone looks, because I do. It looks beautiful as hell, the art team knocking it out of the park again, it just doesn’t strike me as anymore of a naga empire than Vashj’ir did in Cataclysm.

Perhaps another issue is that Nazjatar could have been a better setting for an expansion as opposed to one of two zones introduced in a patch. It could have been fleshed out a lot more.

EDIT: Again, just so I’m making myself clear here I’m not refuting that this could be the edge of the city as opposed to the interior. But the point I’m trying to make is that, if that’s the case, then we’re not really going to see Nazjatar and that’s a shame. If this is actually what Nazjatar looks like, then that’s also a shame.

Shame. Basically.

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Heh… yeah…

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What’d be cool is a small faction of Naga called the Tidesworn who have abandoned Azshara and serve Neptulon.

Well, there were the Felsurge naga upon broken shore who served the Legion and embraced fel, so it isn’t impossible.

I doubt that. Considering how vain and proud Azshara is, why’d she put her palace at the edge of the city and not in the middle?

Random site note actually. It looked like in the cinematic before Azshara uses the tidestone, she’s in her palace but it’s not filled with water.

You think she prefers being out of the water? Maybe it’s so she can drink wine and stuff.

Nah it’s just Blizzard writing.

And I guess she likes toying with us by threatening to drown us at any moment.

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Blizzard’s writing team would’ve been a great cast for GoT ssn 8, with all the forgetting of obvious things they do.

People say this a lot without understanding what an entire expansion entails. What more depth do we need? The factions we encounter live in the deep ocean - we’ll likely never encounter them again. We already know a great deal about the Naga and their attitudes from the past 15 years of WoW, and we have expansion on their culture with the description of the Shirakess who explicitly worship the Void.

The one thing I can think of would be expanding on the Coilskar (the Illidari naga) and their attitude to Azshara, but that’s a minor point. What else do we need that would require 3-5 more zones?

I mean, you could say that for KT and Zandalar as well.

You could say it for most expansions, but that’s par for the course. I’m not saying it should have been an expansion, just that maybe it could have been. It’s not unlike Blizzard to take something small and flesh it out.

I mean look at the Broken Isles, as far as we knew there wasn’t really anything there outside of the Tomb of Sargeras and some elven ruins. But in Legion there was also a whole culture of Tauren, the city of Suramar above the waves and the heartland of druidism that we didn’t know about previously for some reason.

I’m not saying Nazjatar should have been an expansion set, tbh I probably wouldn’t want to play an under the sea expansion, but as I said in my previous reply, it just seems a shame whichever way it falls, interior of Nazjatar or exterior, that this is what it is.

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I am.

Nazjatar should have been its own expac. Azshara could easily carry an expac herself as the arch villain.

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