Please add more words into your vocabulary than âstrawmanâ. Do you want me to dig up the plethora of posts for you? Stop sealioning and assuming everything is a strawman when weâre all working with hypotheticals here. You have the annoying tendency to turn every thread into boring essayposting when all that started this was a simple meme. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
Stop turning the discussion into semantical differences. The moral standpoint is the 50/50% hiring split in general, you specified that into STEM as an example, but the question is about equality of outcome on the job (which this isnât about, by the way, youâre thinking about equality of opportunity).
If someone in a political environment resorted to cheap microaggressions to drive home their point, it is very telling what their general policies are and how dumb they are. Why is this something to be debated?
Careful, you might be asked for source!
p.s. zaphius stop acting like you need a source for this happening when weâre talking on blizzard forums xoxo
I need to kick my sleeping pattern back into shape because Iâm getting up early for Comic Con and I have not been getting up early because depression has sapped my will to live.
âAm I wrong?â
âNo, itâs the last 150 years of history that are.â
I think there are obvious advantages. You have:
Dragons are essentially a side transcending the dichotomy of the Horde/Alliance working to preserve what truly matters: Azeroth, and each in their own way. With enough room to make it more than Goldenâs generic âfer Azerothâ! (Ie. What is your blue dragonâs approach to ordering magic? Is it a âmortals abuse magicâ or a âwe must work in tandem with mortalsâ).
Being a dragon means being capable of using the character on both sides. You can be a human mage on the Alliance and an elf mage on the Horde and while you work towards a greater goal, your alter-ego can act as, for example, a pro-war character (which avoids unpleasant ooc drama about neutrals) while actively seeking peace behind the scenes, getting the best from both worlds.
You have access to small flavors of lore that most races do not have. Thereâs plenty of draconic lore, almost as much as playable races, and it comes with its unique quirks.
3.B) Dragon lore resists rather well from the securitization most races have to endure (forsaken, light users, Elune followers in the latest expac), because a huge portion of a dragonâs fantasy is about being amazed by their majestic behavior, which makes dragons be creatures that are somehow âspiritually attunedâ, so-to-speak.
You can play with the mystery. Thereâs nothing more rewarding than revealing to your friends that youâre a dragon after a looong arc of months, in which the two gradually learn to trust one another in spite of all the barriers that otherwise surround them, a sort of getting beyond the social, impersonal mask to discover someoneâs real self.
If the above isnât special enough, you donât have to be in a disguise all the time! While in most occasions you donât want to just toss around your draconic identity, thereâs nothing that prevents you from going out in dragon form here and there, especially when you have friends backing you up in campaigns which involve your flight!
Then do something else, because taking an argument and turning it into a fictional caricature is the textbook definition of strawman.
Itâs not semantics, itâs the difference between two arguably [very different] fields and crowds of people.
If itâs just a minor difference why are you so hellbent on avoiding discussing it?
You made the rules: you argued I should pick an example, and I did. And all of a sudden, you try to bring in a complete different direction.
???
You asked me to pic an example, and I gave you one: equality of outcome in the field of STEM. Yes, I dont support equality of outcome in general, but I believe examples such as Ariel are obviously more problematic.
Because of:
a) Controversies surrounding Ariel are a cacophony of opinions from all kind of sides. It feels like a needless pick, why why you have to drag something which arguably attracted a lot of confusion and plenty of trolls along the way, when I offer you a more crystal-clear and less problematic example?
b) It is not a field but a single movie - we arenât speaking of the movie industry for example, but rather nit-picking the controversies around a single case. That alone is a step away from a more objective discussion as we both have to work with limited data in a very short timeframe, which makes it harder to infer systematic issues and general principles. A single, isolated phenomenon does not explain a trend.
Itâs obvious these differences alone make it two different cases. I shouldnât even bother writing why they are different, and I shouldnât even have to justify my choices, as per your rules.
You made the conditions and now want to change them because the topic doesnât provide what youâre looking? Nah. Search in your closet: if you find a spine, use it.
Oh btw. Waiting an apology for implying I am a fascist.
And this is all that was needed. What has been asked of me is not to convince Nerath that I am right on said topic, but simply that implementing a meritocratic position rather than one based on equality of outcome is a politically moderate position which isnât on an extreme side of the spectrum.
In other news I am yelling at photoshop to let me do the curve I want to do with the pathtool so I can convert this whole thing eventually to a vector file >:l
âI need my echo chamber in a forums meant for a public exchange of opinions, I canât have people argue on the forums. Everyone must agree with me! Quickly, everyone, selectively ignore what I donât like!â
What am I even lying about? The quote is about how you are in fact not a good-meaning centrist, because you continuously, obtusely, repeatedly whinge over not listening to the other side ad nauseam. Youâve proved exactly that in this conversation yourself.
Other replies are related but not connected, but I can like all of them the same.
Though I canât see certain posts, if youâre not a fan of someoneâs (donât call them usual suspects, be truly direct) posting, whack them on ignore and post around them.
Itâs not impossible to have a conversation on a forum whilst other people are having theirs.
Itâs the reason the reply function exists,so you can go back to the relevant post and see what the happs is.