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Enemies to lovers
Grumpy sunshine
Enemies to lovers grumpy sunshine
Yes, of course Iâm talking about the Helnik ship, how could you tell?
They are generic, but they were also released in 1983 initially at the height of DnD tropes being established left and right and still retain much of their OG style (which to me is great, they are just as cheesy today as back then).
I think ironically Warhammer elves might be more unique in todayâs wide array of fictional elven cultures because of how aggressively boilerplate they are, and thatâs just peak Warhammer.
Itâs not just that. Alleria Windrunner got ruined once she became a void elf, as if one edgy windrunner wasnât enough. Now we have two. A void and a Darkfallen.
Would have been 100% better if she came back simply as a High elf. Thatâs the Alleria people were hoping to see when she was reported missing in action.
Now we wish she was never found in the first place.
Only thing that made her interesting.
Vereesa is a character.
High Elf Alleria wouldâve been too.
Death Knights are
As a fan of Warcraft 2, I assure you Alleria would not have been boring if she returned as she was in Warcraft 2.
Read up a bit on her lore. What she did in Quelâthalas. what she did during her 1000 years of being lost in the nether. Sheâs amazing in every way. A soldier.
She has two statues in-game honoring her (Dalaran and Stormwind) and a stronghold named after her.
Even Lorâthemar was amazed to be in her presence when she returned.
Comparing her to Veressa is just low.
actually death knights never sleep we just stand there silently for 6-8 hours unmoving, itâs incredibly eerie
I know her lore tyvm, that doesnât mean sheâd be interesting. Sheâd be another Alliance-oriented high elf ranger windrunner who doesnât like the Horde. Her conversations, attitudes, and actions were already filled in for by Vereesa. They would have served identical roles in the story going forwards, so something needed to change about her to make it work for both of them to be around.
Iâd have rather Turalyon and Vereesa never return and their fates be left unknown forever personally. Alas, 'twas not to be.
Her having to come to terms with an almost alien world, the state of her home, her people etc is still more interesting, imo, than yet more âOh no, Light might be bad, actually?!â Blizz centrist writing. All to add into the whole Illidan going âHeh, nothing personal kidâ schtick.
But heaven forbid WoW writing ever has subltety, depth, or emotions dialled to less than 10
Jokes on you, that entirely happened in offscreen conversations anyway. Her void-mode had nothing to do with it, nor would it have.
Itâs not like people are saying âoh man maybe Alleria would have been conflicted about the Horde and Silvermoon!â becauseâŚsheâs not, she wasnât, no one seems to have wanted her to be. They talk up - like has been done here - about how sheâs a cool Alliance war hero fighting for the Alliance. Zero subtlety.
And, again, any of that âsplit loyaltyâ stuff? Well damn, wonder if Vereesa might have ever felt that. Itâs the same story! Except they didnât do it before, so why would they do it now?
Which is far more interesting than the 90% of Thalassian elves who follow the horde and hate alliance guts
Unlike Vereesa, Alleria is not a housewife. She is a Thalassian elf who always followed her heart and went to many many many battles wether for the alliance or for Azeroth.
And she does have a good reason for hating the horde. They are the reason 18 of her family were killed. They are the reason she went to Outland in the first place.
If she returned as a high elf, she could have lead the Allerian stronghold elves and joined the alliance.
You were worried Alleria would be too similar to Vereesa, and yet she just became an alliance version of sylvanas. Leading a bunch of gothy elves who are also allied with the Lightforged, and she herself is married to a Lightforged. As if that makes any sense
She isnât a void elf (:
You forget the third: genocide enthusiast Vereesa.
Donât need to do dark magic to be an edgelord.
Bold to claim she is in any way interesting
Nothing stopping her or the writers from doing that now, and yet� Where is it?
âJokes on you, that entirely happened in offscreen conversations anyway.â
And this is why, ultimately, all WoW writing is sub-par.
Because they canât even tell their own damn story IN GAME properly!
Unfortunately she is. Thatâs cannon lore.
I donât like it myself.
WoW really innovates on the âshow, donât tellâ method of storytelling sometimes by opting to do neither
Fanon lore, more like. Sheâs a high elf with some funky void magic, but girl ainât a void elf.
Unless you buy the books (and even then itâs a longshot)
I play a game in which I can be a rogue to apply bleeds, not to apply reads. >:(
Again, unfortunately she is a void elf. Described both in novels, wowpedia, and even herself in-game.
Had the blood elf players not been harsh towards high elf fans on the forums, she might have actually come back as a high elf.
So thank you blood elves. Blueberry elves are fun!
Maybe youâre the one that needs to read the lore.
Okay but the Allerian Stronghold elves are already part of the Alliance. What changes here?
Damn I sure hope Vereesa Windrunner doesnât hold any similar motivations to Alleria Windrunner here re: their family being killed.
The point being that whether she was void-enated or not is irrelevant to Alleriaâs expressed or written relationship to the Horde/Silvermoon. If thereâs nothing there now, there wouldnât be anything more about it even if she wasnât voidâd. They played their cards, they showed what they wanted to with it. It was nothing.
She would have filled an identical story role to Vereesa otherwise. Whether it was the Void or something else, something about her needed to be clearly and easily visibly different to Vereesa.
Void-mode at least gives some potential drama, albeit one thatâs not taken advantage as much as it could be. The other option wouldâve been Lightforging her too, I guess.
Youâre welcome honestly.
I will recognize it the day she looks like one Iâm afraid.
Until then she is simply a high elf.
Thanking forum blood elves so hard rn for not giving us more of blizzardâs âstellarâ high elf writing.
Bigly agree. Nothing about how boring she is now would be different if she didnât eat a spooky naaru. Theyâve decided not to do anything interesting as is always the case with their high elf writing and seemingly thatâs how it always will be.