They hate Tauriel+Kili because it’s not in the book. I hate Tauriel+Kili because it’s scuffed and poorly written.
the only canon that matters is Lord of the Rings: the Third Age canon
that and shadow of mordor shelob
The orc battle line WHAT’S INSIDE ITS BELLY lives in my head
It was my childhood game, absolutely whacky design (the most powerful ranged units for each faction are not only durable but one cloaks and one stuns on hit) but they could never make me hate my boy Grishnákh
It’s so funny that you mention that because only about 10 seconds into the video I posted, MandaloreGaming talks about how that game “took some liberties” with the source material.
The Helms Deep camera being angled continues to be one of the most frustrating designs in a video game level ever.
But I love that game, it’s so much fun to spam haradrim assassins that just run around in perma stealth.
nuh-uh my team fighting the eye of sauron atop barad-dur is completely coherent with tolkien’s canon
Lintian screams somewhere as we discuss this.
Okay, going off to be a wizard for the weekend, nobody start any drama without me
I will leave you with the fun fact that you can take almost every letter out of the word empty and still pronounce it correctly - you can get down to MT
Have fun! Don’t cause too much trouble!
The event will probably start with my character being on trial for technically performing necromancy, so I cannot make that promise
Explain.
it’s not like you really ever get stuck in when there’s drama anyway. boo hiss we’ll pick all the fights we want
Exactly!
Elves don’t know everything, even about times they lived through. That’s why loremasters like Elrond are so esteemed; he’d be nobody special if every elf knew what he does. Legolas does know some ancient songs about lands the Fellowship passes through, but his knowledge is out of date because the Woodland Realm is so isolated.
Turning an RP guild application into a job interview is stupid. In WoW, if a character makes lore mistakes, I can correct them IC (asking if maybe they misremembered) or in whispers. I don’t see why RP in another game should be any different.
Me Loras
Once again.
since i’m always right agreeing with me is the objectively correct call
Tolkien purists are the worst.
They quote tertiary sources that are contradicted by the published LOTR, Hobbit and Silmarillion, debate stupid things like whether elves need to eat (they do, Tolkien explicitly said that), and criticize adaptations for not adhering to their community headcanon even if they do adhere to things Tolkien actually said.
You can publish a whole poem in Sindarin and they’ll be unhappy because you used the wrong inflection for one word based on what was revealed in that one latest linguistic journal from 2015 (I saw it happen, the poem wasn’t mine).
Tolkien paid great attention to his themes and the verbal finesse of his works, but he didn’t sweat the little details that much. LOTR went through a lot of drafts, during which characters and places routinely changed names (for which Tolkien would later retroactively invent Sindarin etymologies). Frodo didn’t appear until the third draft of the first chapter, and was initially named Bingo. Aragorn was originally a hobbit named Trotter. Legolas didn’t appear until very late in writing, and his role was originally filled by Glorfindel.
Middle-earth is not a single cohesive monolith of pure perfect Author Intent. It was a perpetual work in progress, and what Tolkien purists know as “canon” was stitched together from writings of drastically different eras, during which Tolkien himself held different views about both his world and the real world.
The more conservative kind of Tolkien purists, those who are against strong women or queer characters in his adaptations, particularly like to play the “Tolkien was a Christian” card, both exaggerating the extent to which his Christian views permeated his writings and the extent to which he expected all his readers to agree with his real-life views.
He was also receptive to the idea of others continuing and contributing to the worldbuilding that he started:
(emphasis mine in both quotes)
this i fully agree with. i love loremaster and runekeeper. especially runekeeper.
i havent started warwithin yet because Janthir Wilds is too fresh out atm. The homesteading in it is ridiculously addictive and once more drives home how much I wish WoW had this kind of housing.
should have been dwarf x elf yuri i agree
Is this perhaps where Lotro got Bingo Boffin from? Which I also love as a character. He’s the hobbit you help set up for his own adventure and then regularly encounter through the entire questing experience and can even quest/adventure alongside him in an overarching quest chain that lasts the entire game.