Plea from Turkish Community

Are you accusing the US congress and Premier League of siding with and supporting terrorists then?

Because it sure looks like it. Are they blind too? Or maybe, just maaaaybe, its you…

Premier league… Roflmao. :clown_face:

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This “buying power” is undeterminable, and thus cannot be used. How Activision-Blizzard can know what is your particular buying power, you send them your tax reports or contract with your employer where your salary is written, or how else? This is nonsense and attempt of socialist-minded people to grab free stuff at others’ expence. Turkey is not “poor” country, and yes if you have top-notch gaming PC and Internet access - you definitely not “poor”.

PS. Leave Saint Sofia Cathedral in Constantinople alone.

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It is too late, I already paid a visit and wrote “Gekko” on the walls with pink crayon

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just saw “why we should pay less” and I stopped. If you can’t afford it, don’t play it.

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How does having a regional manager that is Turkish, which works for the regions India, Turkey, Middle East, and Africa translate to directly investing in Turkey?

An investment would be actual offices, server spaces rented/bought etc. etc.

But I came across some Linkedin AD from Blizzard which indicates they’re looking for Turkish translators for Blizzard games. There’s no telling if this means World of Warcraft as well nor does it mean that Turkey will be having their own seperate game client like Chinese/Russian players do. (and seperate subscription cost to boot).

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/localisation-qa-tester-turkish-2020-at-activision-blizzard-1890243357

This will never happen unless turkey gets fully localized. So they cant do anything with the gold/money from their servers to affect other servers. Since you could buy 5 tokens for say the normal amount and give the gold for people to buy 4 x game times.

Also for this to happen you need a playerbase the size russia is fielding and i don’t see that happening either.

Bottom line is ,it’s useless to ask for it unless you have the expected playerbase of russia(if not more). Because if they do it without fully localizing turkey they would have to do it for absolutly every eastern european country(which have the same if not lower wage) and blizzard isn’t know to do charity acts and lose 80% of their money.

Though luck,suck it up and try to reform your goverment or smth.

Konata, I think we have a misunderstanding. There might be a manager that governs all those regions but they hired a Turkish CM (Not CM for all languages) and some other marketing people that are working only on Turkey.

There is also no “actual Germany office”, no exclusive space for it. EU is managed centrally from the FR office. That said - I don’t know if they have a branch office technically existing in Germany, or if that’s not needed because of EU rules etc.

Anyway, these are new developments, I know they’ve been considering at least some localization from hirings (and a friend of mine had an interview at some point), I know they are hiring customer support as well etc.

Btw about the comments that Russia is a larger market: That’s kind of an irrelevant fact by itself. There is no hard rule that says Russia sets the lowest bar for market size.
If nothing else, consider this (making all numbers up ofc). Let’s say there RU size is 2TR.
Let’s say RU sub fee is 1/3 Normal sub fee. That means RU community makes (TR
2)(Sub/3) (just talking about subs) = about 0.66Sub
If TR gets 3/4 (75%) normal sub fee they would make TR*(Sub3/4) = about 0.75Sub
This is a stupid calculation of course, but my point is - it depends on numbers and ratios.

Bad Gekko, bad!

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Also I dont get it why the game needs to be translated and ‘localized’? Are you saying there are people who dont speak English? I never took a single lesson in my life, I learned English on my own, naturally, while hanging out on the Internet since like late 90s.

Of course there are people that don’t speak English. And many people prefer things in their mother tongue, its more immersive and simpler for them.

Russia is the market they did it with only. That’s the base start that’s why you compare to it. Is it a succes or a failure in their eyes? At the very least you should have it’s market size because if its a failure even with their market size they won’t do it. If it was a succes they will probably want at least the same size.

That’s why the comparison to russia. It’s not in the numbers because what you demand is strictly puttin the sub about the same price if not lower than the russian sub.

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According to his Linkedin page he works in The Hague - The Netherlands

Naz. F.
Communications Manager, IMEA at Blizzard Entertainment
The Hague, South Holland, Netherlands 500+ connections

Responsible for driving the communications strategy across the developing region for Blizzard Entertainment, specifically for the IMEA area (India, Middle East, and Africa), working closely with regional publishing leaders, global publishing, and the franchise development team to support franchises priorities and goals. This includes social media, owned media communication, PR and community management with an internal team and outsourced partners.

Responsible for localization efforts in Arabic and Turkish (with my direct report) for Blizzard Entertainment products for in-game and out-of-game content such as marketing, paid media, owned media and other public-facing messaging. This also includes relationships with local rating board in getting games approved for distribution in the IMEA region.

Sales Offices
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Buchs, Switzerland
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Copenhagen, Denmark
Legnano, Italy
Madrid, Spain
Mexico City, Mexico
Mississauga, Canada
Munich, Germany
Oslo, Norway
Paris, France
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Schiphol, Netherlands
Shanghai, China
Singapore
Stockholm, Sweden
Sydney, Australia
Taipei, Taiwan
Velizy, France

Manufacturing/Distribution
Birmingham, United Kingdom
Burglengenfeld, Germany
Shanghai, China
Venlo, Netherlands

Worldwide there’s around 144 million people that speak Russian opposed to Turkish with 75 million people. No matter how you offset subscription prices, the Russian market is (potentially) bigger than the Turkish market.

Regarding to potential clientbase a bigger market is almost always better. Not even mentioning the fact the average income in Russia is double of that in Turkey… So even more reason to pick Russia over Turkey.

Muh dude, our population is over 83m and there are a few more Turkish roots countries around us and considering the other ones around the World how could you find 75m? :smiley: it seems lacking.

If I may take this down to the basics, we can also say that lots of items can be classed as luxury. For instance let us say I go to the shops to buy groceries/household items, there are many expensive everyday items (branded goods) and there are inexpensive versions (store’s own version). So you would assume I would buy what I can afford, will I buy a filet mignon steak or will I buy a cheaper cut of meat? What I am trying to say to you is that people adapt to the budget they personally have, some will be able to afford more and others go for cheaper options.

I know this sounds harsh, but there are lots of free games to play. So to me the fact that WoW is a monthly sub and puts it out of the reach of some is making this the ‘filet mignon’ if I can’t afford it I can’t eat it and have to go for a ‘cheaper’ cut, so in this sense a ‘free to play game’.

Gaming is a luxury, but it isn’t made inaccessible to those that can’t afford it, they either farm the gold to pay the sub, or they play other games that have no such costs.

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Let me tell you a truth about games, there is no such a thing as “free to play game” , in surface yess but in their core they are designed to swallow em money out of your pocket under disguise of f2p. You still don’t have to but people feel obligated because of game systems.

So much this. The rent in Turkey is 83% lower then it is here in my country in Western Europe. Cost of living is 58% cheaper in Turkey!!

I wouldnt be surprised if I have about the same amount of money to spend freely as someone living in Turkey each month.

So… wheres my cheaper sub Blizz???

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I know there is usually some ‘cash shops’ to subsidise a free to play game, but again you will only buy what you can afford. This is the reasoning I am using, if you cannot afford something then the logical assumption is you do not buy it.

I do not go to my local supermarket and say to them I want a filet mignon but I can’t afford it, so therefore I want you to give me this steak at the price I would pay for minced beef.

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Of course not, but we can not compare physical products to digital ones. Physical products have a (more or less) constant cost per unit. Digital products scale infinitely. So for each piece of meat the same amount of cost and profit needs to be covered, it’s not the case for digital products.

Different products, bad comparison. Also, people have been complaining about rent in Berlin and the state is taking actions so it doesn’t even hold on its own.

There is a sales office etc but that’s not where the CMs are. Plus that Activision as well.

As I told you - there might be a head managing all of them but there are singular employees that just focus on Turkey. It’s official, they’ve been introduced : )

Pretty sure the numbers are off seeing how Turkey’s population itself is higher than that but regardless: I’m not claiming that it is the best decision as I keep saying. We only ask that it is considered.

No man its leftists like you and democrats in the US congress, now how hard is it to drop blm since these are not the forums for politics.

I feel sad for my neighbors to be honest.

13 euro is 106 tl.

It is the price that you can spend for week food in a grocery shop.