We have 2 unplayable dull specs, now you are killing the BM specialization. Why should I switch to another specialization, after spending a month dressing my character with the necessary stats, I have another month to farm other gear for the MM specialization? They’re not taking us anywhere anyway, you’re also nerfing the only living playable talent tree. Why can’t you adjust all classes to a certain percentage of DPS so that everything is smooth for everyone, or are you Dota2 that changes the meta? Only this is an MMORPG game, not a mob game. Where are the normal testers? Where is the normal balance? You don’t see that BM Khants don’t have AOE, so let’s nerf the specialization in principle, well done (no). This is your worst mistake, I wanted to bring friends, but I won’t even renew my subscription, as apparently it won’t happen. Good luck everyone. I won’t waste any more time and then have my feet wiped on the community like this.
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Blizzard, the funny thing is, you shouted that you won’t make major changes until the next update/season, a lie!
would love to get a response from blizzard here, can they show us their numbers bm has or can have ? is there a secret we havent figured out yet ?
I mean they are not able to balance pvp from pve, even tho its so easy, but I think ppl deep down need flavour of the month and op classes, otherwise it needs skill to climp rating and push m+… that would scare of more players in general probably…maybe ppl deep down want nerfs and buffs…
A response from Blizzard could fix so much here… but maybe they dont care losing ppl playing the game… they made enough money
Blizzard, how can you destroy a class so thoroughly? As Hunters, we were forced to play Beast Mastery in raids and Marksmanship in Mythic+ just to stay relevant, or even to be considered for groups. Now, you’re taking away my spot in the mythic raid team. Why would my raid leader bring a second Hunter when we’re now dead last in single-target damage, and our AoE remains irrelevant?
Why did I spend countless nights farming gear, only for all my effort to be ruined with a single hotfix?
Just wanna link the youtube from [Azortharion] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqsrg7XxXDI that says it all. Even highly respected theorycrafters know. Over 200 posts/complaints on US hunter forums. Blizzard will NOT listen. They always said they listen to the community, but thats a outright lie.
I have 0 confidence that Blizz will fix the BM hunter/hunter problems in the rework coming with patch 11.0.5. 100% sure they will $%^# it up. If hunters will be good after that patch we will get nerfed to the ground within a few weeks.
I was looking forward to getting my 636 crafted weapon next reset and my DPS sky rocketting, now these changes are being made and it negates all of that effort put in. This sucks man pls blizzard do something!
If we got a 50% AOE increase i would be fine with this change, cause then we atleast would be middle of the pack on AOE, but no we got a freaking 7-9% buff that means absolutely nothing.
If i could just switch to MM/surv and go with it, i wouldnt mind this as much, but no, haste which im stacked on as BM is the worst stat by far on mm/surv. I have to recraft all my crafting gear, and replace every non tier piece becuase they are also mostly stacked on haste.
Should refund all crafts, crests and flightstone so i can start from scratch when they kill a spec this brutaly.
This change is one of the worst balancing descisions i have seen, but as always blizzard are to freaking stubborn to admit they are wrong, and will not revert this change.
Why isnt DK AOE nerfed? They are insanely far ahead anyone else. Why isnt Arcane mage ST nerfed? They were on par or better than BM hunter. Its pretty obvious that there are different people balancing different specs, and that those balancing teams does not speak to eachother, and that we have the worst balancing team of them all. Probably same team as holy paladin.
Basilisk Collar damage bonus per damage over time effect reduced to 2%/4% (was 5%/10%).
Kill Command damage increased by 18%.
All damage dealt increased by 8%.
All damage dealt by pets and summons increased by 8%.
Developers’ notes: We’ve corrected an issue with the Beast Mastery changes which previously excluded the baseline aura buff for both the Hunter and their pets. We’ve also adjusted the values for the baseline buff up, to better reach our target goals. Our intended tuning change for Beast Mastery is intended to be relatively neutral for single target, while increasing AoE performance, which was behind where it should be.
4-5% ST nerf, so still quite the ST nerf, but still but not as bad as the 9-10% nerf we were getting before.
And around a 14% buff to our AOE, but It’s still 35% behind MM in 6 targets AOE so we are still in a rough place but the 11.0.5 MIGH bring it more inline.
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This is from Azortharian (confirmed by Tarlo):
Are the BM changes a Buff or Nerf on ST/AoE?
4-5% ST Nerf
14% AoE Buff
Substantial nerf to single-target viability.
For M+, the AoE buff is obviously large, but it is still VERY far behind the other specs and the general curve on AoE.
“while increasing AoE performance, which was behind where it should be.”
So where BM aoe “should be” according to blizz is 35% behind in aoe, not 50%. Gottcha.
Its at least nice that its confirmed by blizz themself that we are actually supposed to be terrible in aoe, and that this tuning places us where we should be, which are still the undisputed wurst aoe spec.
Our intended tuning change for Beast Mastery is intended to be relatively neutral for single target, while increasing AoE performance, which was behind where it should be.
Relatively neutral, yet a 4-5% nerf to single target. Something doesnt add up there…
The worst part is, our ST would have been fine it they just kept the additional 4% pet damage that they removed when they edited the post.
It would have made it 8% personal damage and 14% pet damage blizzard for some reason is STILL underestimating how broken collar was
If you would “balance” AOE over all classes/specs and Blizz says the BM AOE should be in the place it is, then all other classes/specs would need a huge nerf to their AOE. They are just throwing around numbers and have no clue. Look at all the buffs to our AOE we got in this patch and we are still bottom AOE spec. It started however in prepatch and they still havent fixed it. So how many months do they need to fix it? Will it ever get fixed? With knowing all this, how much confidence we have in the rework? Me 0
