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Blizzard BM does 0 damage in arena on every game we are last of last in dmg why your nerfed basilik!! we were good and you made the spec awful! Please do something!!!

Just by reading the tooltip of Basilisk Collar you already know it was aways going to be a pain to balance, but my issue is that the people at Blizzard who are paid to do this couldnā€™t figure it out themselves, and maybe oh, I donā€™t know, DONā€™T INTRODUCE A TALENT LIKE THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE!

At this point my best suggestion is to either redesign the talent to have a hard cap at 50% damage increase(5 DoTs), but revert the changes back to 10% per DoT, and balance the class DPS around the hard capped Collar, or just throw this talent into the gutters and create a new 2 point talent that isnā€™t a nightmare to balance and maybe even plays into the class fantasy better than what we have right now.

Also FFS Blizzard with this AOE BS already! Weā€™re 40% behind MM which is criminal, just make our Multi-shot and Cobra Shot apply Serpent Sting, make the debuff stack 3 times and consume all the stacks on the 4th application to release a poison cloud to instantly deal nature damage to all nearby enemies. Balance the numbers and viola: YOUā€™VE SAVED THE SPEC.

This took me 10 minutes to come up with, which really makes me question the competency of the people who are actually being paid money to do these kinds of jobs.

Iā€™m furious. This is simply not good enough on your side, Blizzard. Pull your weight, This isnā€™t vanilla wow anymore, you cannot justify such a big gap between BM and MM anymore. Wake up!

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With knowing all this, how much confidence we have in the rework? Me 0

The rework actually looks really solid. The tuning numbers arenā€™t final, so we donā€™t know yet how they plan to balance it, but currently we will become really good in sustained AOE damage. Still missing burst AOE ofc, but thats something we have always been missing.

not really lacking burst aoe if youā€™re picking bloody frenzy

Sure, but thats on a 2 min cd.
Theres a lot of specs that have burst aoe outside of cds aswell, where we need to build it up gradually.

Not saying its an issue. Just that bm hunters generally isnt bursty.

They donā€™t care AT ALL

The changes are just a week away so thereā€™s a little light at the end of the tunnel.
Letā€™s hope for the best

Fingers crossed, not much else we can do right now but hope for the best!

now bm is op gg

Lol no its not, its quite decent though.

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its r1 dps raid and pvp haha broken, but I already saw that coming, hunters are crying to much

R1 dps in raid? Are you blind? Or did you only check the logs that are from before the Kill Command bugfix?
Show me one boss where BM has the highest dps on either heroic or mythic. And dont come with logs from the few hours that bug was active.
BM is certainly not bad right now, but thats all they are, decent.
And tbh thats all i want to be.

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i just wish they would learn to balance us properly we got a buff last reset there now they are nerfing us again this reset.

i just wish they could do it properly coz atm bm feels like a dammed pendulum that just swings between buff and nerf every week or 2ā€¦

It is no longer playable. I think BM Hunter is a class to consider. Itā€™s time to face the facts. Maybe I need to try other games.

the way to spread black arrow sucks to
You need to multi shot hoping in the 6 seconds you have a black arrow proc to spread it
Or wait for the debuff to explode wich is a small chance
thereā€™s to much rng with dark ranger
They said they buffing bm aoe . but i can only find single target build for dark ranger
If i wanted to play a single target spec i play mm

Pack leader is the strongest right now. I personally didnā€™t enjoy the dark ranger play style, but Pack Leader is alright. There are some builds up for it on Icy Veins that are useful. I donā€™t feel in too bad a place, but then again Iā€™m not a key pusher. Iā€™m just an AOTC raider. Fine for the lane Iā€™m in.

It is not. For m+ DR outperforms in every way, and for raid DR outsims on paper but because of a bug with Dark Hounds PL might slightly outperform, however its still very close.

Yeah and there is a talent in the pack leader hero talent tree that makes kill command increase wild call duration making it the best for AOE to
If i wanted a single target spec i play mm

Dark Ranger outperforms in AoE in any way you want to look at it. If you do more damage as Pack Leader then you either have 0 haste or Arent pressing the right buttons.

Wonā€™t lie. Iā€™m getting super tired of the pendulum swing between resets. You log in on Wednesday one week, and youā€™re beating everyone on DPS, the next week youā€™re rock bottom on the meters, and probably some new buggy interaction sprinkled ontop.

Give it a week, and thereā€™ll be another bible of reworks and tuning. Theyā€™ve turned live into PTR.