The first crime is to consider My Little Dragon, or whatever it’s called to be a ‘shtty expansion’ when there’s not enough data available to come to any kind of qualitative conclusion about this retail expansion, on account of it only just going live, still in the earliest phase, and largely untested. You may well be correct. I seriously doubt I’d enjoy it, but I’d prefer to give it a few months before judging it so harshly.
Your second major crime (for which an arrest warrant is currently being obtained) is to assume that people who hate current retail will fall in love with Cataclsym.
Because, for all intents and purposes, Cataclysm is retail, it’s retail in it’s purest form, together with all the content changes that made retail what it is today.
You have around five minutes to get to your hideout before the rozzers arrive with handcuffs.
And your evidence that there will be WotLK-era servers is…?
And your evidence that classic zones will be made available through Chromie Time is…?
And your evidence that the 'main goal is providing every expansion for every community is…? Where’s my TBC expansion?
The remainder if your unfocussed rant simply rehashes the usual ‘GOGOGOGOGO speed everything up, FASTER FASTER FASTER end game is the only game’ mantra you regularly spout and can be safely ignored as irrelevant.
I love how you use the word ‘excrable’ to label anyone not wanting WotLK to be changed to Catacylsm, not even for a moment considering why some people might not want this. It’s all you, you you, isn’t it?
I’d personally lump the whole lot of them together, and just call all of them ‘retail’ - but that’s just me. I don’t honestly see any difference between any of them.
Cry to get it instead crying to transform an expansion you don’t like in Vanilla like.
It’s a suggestion, better than forcing us to play with your vision of the game.
Cataclysm story is Deathwing destroying the world, if you don’t like it, don’t play it, or ask for an viable alternative instead crying “ouin ouin they destroyed the world” OFC THIS IS THE STORY.
Not my fault if you all left Classic ERA empty and said that TBC is a Wotlk waiting room.
You really want to talk about what people want in 2022 with me ?
Do you want to talk about Classic alias the best version of WoW ever, the best version where people just want to walk through the world with happyness etc ?
Do you want to talk about the massive boosting on Classic ? A game which is made to be slow ? Then you want to tell me that Cataclysm should be slower ?
Yes because when some people wanted to change Classic every Classic players (and legit) told them “If you want to change the game, you don’t like it, then the game is not for you, wait for your expansion or go retail”
And then we can say the same ? You want to force us to play with YOUR vision because you don’t like the game as it was made ? Worst, you don’t want to improve the game, you just want to transform it in a Vanilla like, you know the best version of WoW which everyone left.
So yes, excrable mentality, because me, i don’t want to change your favorite expansion and apprioriate everything for myself.
Yes please let’s talk about that. And let’s talk about your love of level boosts, and XP boosts and all the other changes that were made to MY favourite expansion, and how you have a meltdown over someone wanting to change Cataclysm, yet you’re just fine with changes to WotLK.
Seems you’re OK with changes that suit you aren’t you?
But when others make suggestions you go into Hulk mode.
I lvled 2 character without boosting on Classic 2019.
And never do it again after lvled many character in 12 years of Wotlk.
Nothing was made.
You think they do but they don’t. That’s it.
You think people wanted to xp like you like to do, they don’t. So they boosted without any help of Blizzard, just with the mecanics of the game.
I’m not fine with theses changes of Wotlk.
I’m okay if they make a Wotlk 2.0, because i played Wotlk over 12 years, but if it’s a real Wotlk 3.3.5 i don’t care. So i don’t know what you are talking about.
Conclusion, you tried to put me some bad reason to get you right, but you failed.
How many ** do you have ?
Because my suggestion is good for both community.
You just force every community to play like yours.
As i said, excrable, hypocrite, disgusting. Exactly like your fake accusation.
You know the real thing I see here isn’t really whether Classic will move to further expansions or not. It’s what will either of those options entail. The core - the bigest most glaring problem with Classic is that it’s not really in Blizzard’s focus. Not to say that they don’t do anything to it but the changes won’t really make much impact on this overall solved game.
Sure Ulduar will raise in relevance, ToC will fall into obscurity since with even non HC Ulduar it will not be much of a challenge to do ToGC. None of those will really change how game is played. It’s a static version of a game that pioneered the term “Flavor of the Month” with it’s wild balance changes over the course of it’s lifespan. DK, Locks and Rogues will rein supreme in DPS, Ret Paladin’s will be Trash till post ICC but what after that?
For me regardless of the path they take the current approach will not suffice. Cataclysm needs extensive changes to the point of being something different and the balance will need to be found between maintaining the old world and yet moving it on with the story be it by phasing, alternate reality whatever… Lot’s of work indeed.
But the same should be said for eternal WotLK be it as a definitive end for Classic or an Era servers (latter preferably with free cloning allowing players to both stay on WotLK an move forward with whatever next entry would be). It’s something Pservers realized long ago. Stagnation means death. You won’t keep players for long in a static and expect them to stay. They’ll need to do something. Whether it’s taking page of Pservers and offering actual increase in difficulty or ability to experience old raids anew or something else.
What will happen? Hard to tell though my hopes aren’t high knowing ActiBlizz
I still push for eternal Wrath servers. Even if only 10 people ever play on them I’d be content, but that’s just me.
I doubt it would be that bad though. My guess is that Wrath-era servers would maintain a fairly healthy population, given that the ripping up of the core game within Cataclysm was one of the key drivers that lead to so many people’s disillusionment with the game, backed up by the evidence of massive population declines and unsubscriptions during that era.
Apparently private servers running Wrath-content still manage to maintain healthy populations, though I have no first-hand experience on private servers with which to back that up, I’m merely repeating what I read elsewhere.
If I was actually trying to do that you might have a point. Fortunately I’m doing nothing of the sort, and you’re simply creating a massive straw man construct and putting my name on it.
Again, what was the suggestion you claim I was making?
Probably not a popular view, but I’d prefer them to move on to what I’d call Classic Plus. Back in the day, Crystalsong Forest could not be utilised properly due to the load issues caused by Dalaran. Nowadays that should be far less of an issue, so that zone would be a good place to start. Next, Grizzly Hills and Sholazar could each use an instance of their own (say a dungeon and a short raid), leading into an entirely new expansion that was speculated about even back then: the Emerald Dream.
No overhauling the old world (GH and SB both have perfectly fine locations to drop an instance portal as is) and no further compromising of the classic values as Cataclysm did, but a proper clean slate. Considering the popularity of Classic over the past two-and-a-bit expansions, it’d probably make sense for Blizzard to actively create more shelf life for it in the form of an alternate timeline.
Edit: not all portals under Wyrmrest Temple will be used either, which provides even more room for isolated pieces of content to extend WotLK.
That’s the most structured case for Classic + I’ve had the pleasure of reading for a long time, because you’ve actually given examples of what it might contain.
Usually what happens is people make a case for Classic+ but rarely bother to outline what they think it might consist of. People might not agree with your suggestions for new content, but at least you’ve put some thought into it, so props for that.
I admit to serious doubts if the current Blizzard could pull it off. I just think that while Cata classic would still be popular enough, it’d be the inevitable end of WoW Classic. Once the game undergoes those changes, there’s no going back and in the long term, the state of the game in Cata will almost certainly lack the mass appeal the current iteration has.
Blizzard will have to choose between the easy, but short road (Cata classic) and the difficult, but–if executed well–long road ahead. Me, I like the sound of the latter best, but I also expect modern day Blizzard to go for the quick and easy buck.
IDK if I will continue in CATA. Thix expansion made me lost all hopes for wow because of direcetion which went. But i will 100% cancel subscription if they wont fix how servers are balance because what could i enjoy in CATA was wpvp. No point to play it without enemy faction. Even WOTLK is realy pain without enemy in the world. So stupid play world of warcraft without enemy faction. I would better rerun vanilla again.
