You are not capable of doing that even while trying. You say the silent ones don’t matter, and then just before that you tried to discredit those who spoke up because it’s not enough in your eyes and when we say how many people criticize covenants then suddenly you claim that its just a made up number.
Hard to speak to somebody who can’t even understand what he says.
What nonsense. I had a resto druid available in legion, and i just kept playing my resto shaman. Way worse in M+, what my main content is than the druid. Stop thinking and asuming for others.
They don’t have to add countless passives and abilities in every single expansion, but at this point we didn’t get a new talent row for 6 years, and barely any new ability. At this point i’m sure people wouldn’t complain about some new abilities that they are not going to lose at the end of the expansion. Especially when the classes without borrowed power feel terrible to play thanks to them designing classes around these powers.
I’m not here to waste my time arguing with NEW PLAYERS WITH UNDER 5000 ACHIEVEMENT POINTS.
Have a good day
New player? This is my third account and I’ve played since vanilla.
How many achievement points must one aquire for having the honour to speak to you my lord?
They have data, psychiatrists, analysing this game all the time.
They know what they are doing.
But people are wrong if they think it’s for player engagement.
It’s for player addiction.
You can’t milk a player base in to paying 6 months worth of subscription if they quit after they have nothing to do can’t you ?
Cheers.
Ohwell, in the end I assume we can just agree to disagree. Lets move into shadowlands hoping it will be the best expansion so far atleast.
“Player choice matters” coming from a DH with a cookie cutter build and coincidentally two of three BiS azerite traits, likely only missing one due the the item not having it available.
I am sure that’s a total coincidence, there is no way you happened to google the best talent set ups and Azerite traits right?
Player power is the absence of player choice. It would be solely player choice without player power.
The sooner people realize this the sooner we can have an enjoyable expansion.
You got to hand it to Vinzora he knows how to make a bait topic and see it go up in flames 8/10 troll rateing .
Don’t really care for someone who thinks Ion knows what’s best for us, he should worry more about what’s best for the game
I do know what I play this game for; to have fun, outside of RP I used to do that by building different talent/stat/Lego/essences/whatever builds
I like M+ with guildies and BGs and the idea of being forced to choose abilities which might give me an edge in one but hampers me in the other and that being a permanent choice makes me feel like I am being scuffed in atleast half of the stuff I find mechanically fun about the game
That’s not good for the game
Make the covenants cosmetic only and then make it a permanent choice, just detach the abilities from that system
Shadowlands is looking great but this times borrowed power feels like a bigger Moloch that could just cast a shadow on everything else
The chaos here is quite enjoyable to behold, isn’t it my dear?
If i had a penny for everytime a covenant defender says “rpg”…
Gear is also borrowed power so maybe Blizzard should remove gear too.
This is not an argument.
People go to Icy Veins for talents and stat priority. Then they go to Bloodmallet for azerite and corruption values, trinkets and what not. Then they go to youtube to watch class specific guides for raid bosses.
People will always do this. By this logic, the entire tuning process of your character is badly designed and, by extension, every RPG that has ever been created is badly designed.
Exactly, to be told how to play. 
Liking Vinzora’s posts because you actually agree with him is embarassing.
Yeeh. These “Choices” works in rpgs which in the end will have a week of unique gameplay at max and afterwards it’s mostly about trying different things out. Meanwhile WoW it’s suppose to last potentially a year or two…
Players have already made a “meaningful choice” and that is their class and race combo.
Rather a genius jebait I’d say, the silent “majority” just spot em’selves.
Yes and class and race is enough, Covenants are not sub-classes, specs are sub-classes and we can already change between them freely.
Having a system of less importance than our classes, actually having a downside greater than our current customization level of our actual sub-specs, makes the system appear intentionally cumbersome and having bad design.
Simply bad design? Nope… intentional bad design, since we know they can do better.
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