The sample size isn’t the problem, it’s that his followers do not represent the population. How much do they differ? No idea, only Blizzard can do a good estimation of that. And since we have no idea how skewed the sample is, it’s impossible to draw any conclusions.
thats why wow is going down and down each year and the last one will left here is Ion because all of us the rest do not understand how genius he is… oh well… At least we are thankful classic exists and genius Ion cannot change it.
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I can’t speak for his followers and I’m not going to presume what kind of players they are.
As I said in my previous post the sample size is not a problem, the problem is that his followers do not respresent the playerbase, and therefore its result do not match the interest of the population.
Pro tip: take a course in statistics, it’s actually very interesting.
@Pixelripper: There is actually one even bigger flaw… DPS is NOT the primary concern for healers or tanks…
Then who does? Elias and Vinzora whose only argument was single player fantasy in a massivels multiplayer online game? I would rather listen to people who give logical argument about this system and knows why, with the current design of the game, is going to bad, and also to the hundreds of thousands of people who agree with them and not just because “he is a streamer”.
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I liked my “course” in common sense better. This way i don’t have to nitpick what to reply to just for the sake of continue an argument that relies on my personal feelings only.
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The average wow player?
Then you didn’t read what they wrote.
Again, a made up number. Hundreds of thousands?
I’m just making sure that a streamers poll result is not percieved as what the majority of the playerbase wants. At least one person in this thread needed that memo.
So, asmongold’s viewerbase (even though according to Elias, he is the average playerbase) Unless you think he is only watched by cutting edge raiders which would be interesting with his average 40-50k viewers.
I did, that’s what they want, something that would only work in a singleplayer game.
Again, ignorance. He is followed by more than 300k people on Twitter, 1.5 million on twitch and 267k on YouTube. But i guess the opinion of all those people who agree with him (or other streamers and youtubers with an also nice amount of followers) out if these made up numbers are completely irrelevant when it’s most likely bigger than the current sub number after everything Blizzard did in BfA failed.
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U dont think the “average wow player” watches the biggest wow streamer"?
The only better source of information that can be achived via a poll is if blizzard themselves did a survey. But since we dont get that this is as close as we get.
And I do for sure think that more people are for easy access to the abillities without ruining their RP/immersion of their characters.
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Yeah, it would be surely safer to listen to those who don’t speak.
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I don’t underestand people that insist they have any clue what a silent majority feel.
People have expressed all sorts of opinions for and against.
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It’s the false argument of those who don’t actually have relevant argument, so they pull out the “hah, those who don’t speak up must think what i think and we are the vast majority” card.
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DAMMIT, I missed Vinzora’s thread… Why didn’t you guys wake me up!? Thanks…
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I think a specific type of player are watching streams. I think they are players who spend more time in game, and are overrepresented in some of wows content. But thats a guess, I don’t know, and neither do you even though you state that Asmongolds watchers ARE average wow players.
And how did you decide how many of his watchers agrees with him?
Absolutely not. I think those who are interested in streams differ from the average player as I wrote earlier in this post. I think an interest in streams correlates with specific in game interests.
A skewed result is certainly worse than no result at all if you want to draw conclusions from a population. Blizzard has the ability to make educated guesses on what players enjoy based on a crap ton of in game data. No poll needed.
Why do you think that?
Me neither, only Blizzard has good enough tools to make a good guess. Everyone else just use it as a hallow argument to backup their own opinion.
And they are doing nothing, so the only thing they see is the ton of negative feedback which they will ignore for 2 major patches like they usually do.
You argue that the people who spoke up don’t matter either because they are not representing the majority in your opinion which is ridiculous, given the amount of people that support the negative feedback. So, the silent people don’t matter, the vocal people don’t matter, no one matters… that’s great logic, this is the reason why Blizzard, once again, will implement something that the players already hate and know that it won’t work out, just like the azerite system.
…what… Damn you guys really lack common sense. Do you think majority of his viewers watch him criticize WoW because they want to hear something they don’t agree with for hours every single day?
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People fail to realize that fun is not a factor being considered in gaming in this days.
Profit is.
If all they care about is profits and game metrics where player immersion and fun even has a place ?
It doesn’t.
They can talk all they want about fun and engaging systems and I can say I would be happier with the simple gearing progression I had until WoD.
I would had still enjoyed legion expansion without those systems In place.
Cheers.
Sadly it’s true, even though considering fun would mean more profit. But now the game is all about forcing people into competitive environments where they need to be optimal, but in order to be optimal you have to farm essences, corruptions, echoes. It sounds good at first because it means a lot of played time. What they don’t consider is how they are going to burn people out.
Same. Then all the borrowed power could be just added to classes and they might just fix one of the biggest issues of WoW which is how the gameplay currently feels, and they might just increase their profit without making people farm stuff from day 1 until the last day of the expansion and burn them out.
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They cant becouse there is now way you can maintain this in long run.
I do? huh. How about not putting words into peoples mouthes? Then they might make an effort to reply properly.