Please increase the drop rates on callous hide

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Please increase the drop rates on callous hide.

We are approaching the fourth week of being able to get soul ash and with it the possibility of getting rank 4 legendary items. The crafting cost of a rank 4 head/chest/legs on my server is currently 150 000 gold, the price of an entire wow token. For contrast it takes 10 times less to craft a cloth piece in the same slot.

The demand for callous hide is obvisouly incredebly higher than its supply and the amount of people prepared to skin for hours is obviously low enough for the supply to never reach the demand.

Most of the players I play with barely have enough gold to buy the materials required to craft a rank 4 and have nowhere near enough gold to buy the items off of AH where crafters charge double the cost (since theres no competition with the leveling of the profesion being so ridicuolously expensive).

Again, please increase the drop rates on callous hide. It will make ranking leather working more affordable and increase the supply of these items.

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I just looked, and rank 4 costs 450.000 per piece in AH on my server right now. Heavy callous hide goes for over 2.500 per piece. Enchanted heavy callous hide fore 6.870 gold. They really have to change something. I gave up crafting those pieces myself. I cant afford to buy them in AH. I don’t have anyone who can craft them for me and I don’t trust strangers enough to craft them for a tip. So yeah. That leave me with my rank 1 piece for the next few months I guess until they reach an affordable price in AH. Was really excited to craft this s**t myself, but I’ve got better things to do in my life than farm for 100s of hours for the hides.

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Blizzard simply need to do this ASAP. Obtaining the materials for cloth is much faster than obtaining the materials for leather/mail and that’s just not fair. Especially not for a system that’s central for the game.

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rank 1 my self on shoulders, and did a rough count on what it would cost for me to get to rank 4 from rank 1, and it would arround 1.5miljon gold or so, cheaper if I farm for hours strait, and then we talking about 6 hours farming per day for atleast 7 days, not gona do that ever.

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Please, don’t.

That’s fine. There are so many opportunities to make gold at the start of expansion. And you gonna wear that item next 6 months at least. 150k is not a big price.

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I’m sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about.

As leatherworker - Just in order to be able to craft / to unlock one single piece rank 4 leather item you have to spend 800-1300 heavy callous hide (dep. on the slot) (+a lot of other stuff). RN there are about 200 heavy callous hide available on the AH.

in comparsion; there is 30’000 of the good cloth available - and at least 2-3k of each ore.

This fact alone tells you, that the droprate is way too low. if you farm heavy callous hide in a very effective/fast pace, you get like 23-27 per hour (incl. transforming callous hide to heavy callous hide). this hour of farming is Nonstop Constantly abusing mobspawns and doing nothing else than Farming all the time. => you can calculate the rest yourself, on how long it takes to create a legendary for yourself :slight_smile:

i don’t say anything if every prof is the same, but this clearly isn’t the case.

And if that’s not enoguh, here is the worst about it, think about that:

  1. cloth is only used for cloth gear+bags and completely inflated
  2. ores are only used for plate gear and is kinda inflated
  3. leather is not available on the market at all and is used for Chain AND Leather gear. - so two of four armor types for what’s not available, while the others are just inflated.

anyways, i wish you all merry christmas.

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And you’re not even talking about the problem of not levelling the ranks fast enough: you end up crafting rank1 pieces that no one will buy, because they rather wait a week more and get a rank2 piece instead. I’ve been forced to sell rank1 pieces at over 6k loss.

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6k loss was from week two the case for rank 1; *yes, this is just one issue

leather is a way too rare crafting reagent. in theory, since having those is mandatory for every player, there should be the the following ratio on these items:
1.25 cloth (cloth gear + cloaks)
2 leather (leather + chain gear)
1 ‘combined’ ore - forgot its name

RN, there the ratio is like
15 cloth
0,2 leather
1 to 2 combined ore

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I am leatherworker with all rank 4 recipes except mail vest and mail wrist (both rank 3 for now).
I made huge amount of gold selling legendaries last 2-3 weeks ))
I buy hides on saturdays and sundays, when price is low and sometimes I have 2000-3000 heavy callous hides at the same time.
It will be not good for me if Blizzard decide to increase drop rate and hide price will become lower. Especially if they will do that without warning.

No such problem at Silvermoon.
Usually 3000-6000 heavy callous hide and 10.000-25.000 callous hide available.

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Yeah maybe not good for you, someone who has tons of gold hanging around and lives and breathes crafting. But what about the average player that doesn’t want to spend hundreds of hours farming to get 1 piece to rank 4. You know the ones without a lot of gold laying around. Fact of the matter is that for instance on my server, cheapest cloth r1 is 500g meanwhile cheapest leather r1 is 14,5k g. Seems a like a bit of an imbalance don’t you think?

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Agree with you. But that only means that Blizzard should reduce cloth drop rate and don’t touch hides drop ))
Wake up. It’s a LEGENADARY item, it must be expensive.

Just buy 1 wow token? 150k is enough to buy almost any rank 4 legendary.

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So this is probably telling us how you were able to buy so many Callous Hides in order to rank into the profittable ranks
you’re literally descbring a pay-2-win situation. If you have no problem spending aditional money on a game you already pay a subscription, good for you
you don’t represent the majority of the playerbase, who doesn’t have millions around.

I made a couple hundred thousand with Inscription at start of expansion, due to Darkmoon trinkets, like I do every expansion. The people with Tailoring, Blacksmith and Jewelcrafting also made money, because it’s easy to grab the mats, so when it’s time to sell the crafted items, you can sell at reasonable prices, so people buy them without a problem. A rank2 Tailor piece costs around 1,5k gold to make, and can be sold for over 3k, It’s not a huge profit, but it exists, and it’s sustainable.
That is not the case with Leatherworking, where Callous Hide costs are really high, so each piece costs over 30k to craft! Rank1 pieces are sold at over 5-6k losses, because people are skipping to rank2, in order to save gold. And because of the very high costs of ranking the gear, there are very few people selling rank 3 and 4 pieces, so they completely hold the market, selling them for big over the top profits, that only “whales” or those pressured for Mythic raiding/dungeon buy.

If you’re unable to understand that Leatherworking is completely broken due to Callous Hide, then there’s no further conversation to have with you, as you’re literally the only person I’ve seen so far defending things to remain as they are.

By the way, this is not a true Legendary item
it’s part of a mechanic announced for this expansion regarding Class Powers. It’s not supposed to be hard to craft or unbelievable expensive
maybe higher rank pieces should cost more, I have no problem with a rank4 costing 100k, as you’re trying to recoup the money you put into ranking up, but on my server they’re selling leather and mail rank4 for over 300k! In comparision, cloth and plate go for 100k. This is a problem.

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Or make it so you can trade 10 Heavy Desolate leather for 1 Callous Hide
Sitting on 8k Desolate leather only gotten 51 Heavy/Callous Hide
100 Heavy Callous hide is 200k on AH
Rank 4 leggings goes for 280k on AH
I don’t mind having to farm a lot for it, but the ratio is just totally of balance if you compare it to other crafting professions

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I’ve had toons with every profession since Cataclysm so I’ve seen balancing issues between tailoring/LW/BS at the start of an expansion before. However, the LW situation is the worst I can remember. I’ve currently got 2 cloth characters who are kitted out with rank 4 leggos and 2 mail/leather characters who have the ash to spend but are still sitting on rank 1.

I could buy rank 4 for both but i’d be looking at 600-800k and there’s no guarantee I wouldn’t want to change that leggo slot later. I also prefer to make my own gear but rank 4 in just 2 recipes would take days to grind (I’ve tried it) or alternatively cost 1-2 million gold.

WoW has some hard grinds in it - money forthe brutosaur, Insane in the membrane etc are fine because everyone is on a level playing field. The problem here is that LW leggos aren’t anywhere near as permanent as these, and the massive discrepancy and effort/gold needed by leather/mail classes to have the same parity as their plate or cloth guildies just leads to resentment that the balancing wasn’t addressed from the start. If it continues, there will be a drop off in leather and mail characters in favour of playing a character people can afford to gear out fully.

225 heavy callous hide to get just from rank 1 to rank 2 in just 1 recipe ? C’mon Blizz, run the stats to see the average leggo rank worn this week for leather or mail characters vs other classes and you’ll see there’s something wrong


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I really think they should bring a recipe for Callous Hide from Desolate Leather. That should fix the problem and bring LW to a level playing field.
Increasing drop of Callous Hide would effectively nerf just Skinning profession.
It’s the combination that should make it effective.

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My calculations for the realm Blade’s Edge to craft enough legendary’ trousers from rank 1 all the way up to rank 4 came to:
675 Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide
675 Heavy Callous Hide
1725 Heavy Desolate Leather
7200 Desolate Leather
1650 Orboreal Shards
Which with the drop rate of Callous hides is daunting to say the least XD
To buy the mats on the AH and pay your way to Rank 4 would cost a whopping 4.4 million gold.
i sucked it up and bought my Rank 4 piece. The people who are at rank 4 have mad commitment and my respect XD

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You can’t know that because we don’t know how the legendary system will scale and expand in future seasons. And the 9.1 season will likely hit in three months tops, not six.

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Reducing the number of callous hide needed to craft one heavy callous hide would make a big difference.

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Farming for more hours than I care to admit over the weekend, I managed to skin enough leather to make 236 heavy desolate leather, but only 22 heavy callous hide - and that was with a few v lucky drops of actual Heavy Callous Hide.

Bottom line is the Callous Hide is WAY too rare.

Especially when , after making your first legendary, you need to make 14 more of Rank 1 before you can make Rank 2 legendaries.

For the Boneshatter Helm, that means you need 70 Heavy Callous Hide and a further 140 Heavy Callous Hide to make 70 Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide - a total of 210 Heavy Callous Hide, which means skinning 2,100 of a very, very rare skinning drop. This is just not right. AH prices on Wildhammer would cost over 250,000 gold to get that much Callous Hide just to unlock the Rank 2 recipe.

Can we get a way to cure/turn Desolate Leather into Callous Hide? Or just up the drop-rate? Please
!?

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i have been farming leathers since the launch of the expansion, at exactly the same spot, the spot never showed up in any youtube videos and i rarely ever see people there. in the last few days the hch drops dramatically decreased instead of increased, i dont really know what blizzard is doing, but theyre going in the wrong direction. on my server the hch still goes for over 2k g a piece. meanwhile you can get rank 4 cloth legendarys for 40k, the leather ones are still 300k or more