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The horde was starting to lose everything they had achieved in the Cataclysm itself. The only real reason they were able to destroy Theramore was because they stole the Focusing Iris. Which they then lost. Jaina could have destroyed the entire horde when she took the focus iris from the horde, but thank the plot that Thrall and Kalec managed to talk some sense into her.

The horde has NEVER had the upper hand against the alliance, in any war.

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Theramore was only able to defend itself due to Baine being a snitch and giving Jaina time to gather additional forces from neutral parties like the Sha’tar and Kirin Tor. As you see betrayal is the main reason why the Horde can’t win their battles. Because our own leaders always make sure their human buddies won’t be harmed in any meaningful way.

The horde wasn’t able to overcome their defenses in any way.

Anyway, You should be thankful precisely to the script that the horde continues to exist, because the alliance has had opportunities to completely destroy it on countless occasions:

For example, if Thareta Foxton (An human) wouldn’t free Thrall from the internment camps, If the alliance of Lordaeron would destroyed the whole horde Instead of locking them up in the internment camps, when Jaina had the focusing Iris if she woudln’t stoped the summoning of that Tsunami, after the siege of Orgrimmar, or even Tyrande using her news nightwarrior powers (They tell you in shadowlands that these powers destroyed entire races and civilizations in other worlds).

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Wrong. Without the extra aid the city would have fallen just like Nortwatch and Fort Triumph. Baine is the biggest aid the alliance could eve rhope for. He even punished his own people because they fought back against the alliance and without the Orcs and Trolls the fighting in the barrens would have gone much worse for the Tauren.

And we even see this in extra sources. Just look at exploring Azeroth Northrend. It is written from an alliance perspective.

That is your mere interpretation. In any case, you have not responded to any of the above examples.

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It is a fact. Your faction would be nothing but dirt under our boot if Golden wouldn’t protect you all the time from harm. That is why your cities are not raids and your leaders are all alive. Blizzard stenches of alliance bias and it shows. Own up to your privilige. Scum.

yeah but in legion start quest she sed only way beat death is becoing it self and now we have killed jailor for her :stuck_out_tongue: so we did all the work for her :stuck_out_tongue:

and Sylvanas is a person who strikes from shadows she now in the shadows of the Maw

If it had been the horde that had won, it would also have been because of the plot and the protection of some author.

Blizzard hates the Horde and loves the Alliance. Bfa made that clear. Dragonflight is the same. Any new Horde NPC we meet instantly gets killed.

and alliance lost a big n elf lore charather again

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Malfurion will return. Ysera does her thing and they switch places again. Easy.

and the world tree they planted in emerald dream will be currapted by a void lord so once again blizzard pooping on n elves :smiley:

This is why we lost almost the entire Nelf race?

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i already know what 10.1.0 and 10.2.0 is going to be about and have a idea what 10.3.0 will be about :rofl:

All your leaders are alive. Meanwhile the Horde lost 6 of them in Bfa alone. We are not equal. Scum.

Who care for the leaders?

Tyrande and Malfurion and alive but like the 70% of nelf race perished during BFA events.

I would almost prefer the death of some leader than that.

Leaders drivce the story. Without lore NPCs we would have nobody to root for. Populations don’t matter for the story. What matters is standing at the end of a raid fight with someone and getting quests from them.

Whatever your smoking pls share

Races matters alot in the game and lore, not only their leaders…

Whose leader would he be without their race?