Pre-Emptively Ban GDKP in SoD

The GDKP phenomenon has ruined WotLK and Era servers. All you see in /world is spam for GDKP raids. It encourages gold buying/selling, empowers bad players who don’t really want to play the game, minimizes the necessity of participation in a guild, and it detracts from the immersive quality of WoW. No one wants to see SoD servers go down the same route.

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Maybe changing to personal loot system in raids and dungeons can help.

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I wanted to see what all the fuss was about, so I joined my first GDKP yesterday.

Nothing that I wanted dropped, and in the end i got a 16g cut for the efforts.
Gotta say, that kinda feels good instead of going home emptyhanded.

Not sure what the issue is, people will buy gold and botters will exist no matter what happens with GDKP.

If you don’t like it, don’t do it.

The problem is not really gdkp but those bots farming all days with no interruption and make tons of gold …

The Real problem is bots!

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They will, But it wont nearly be as severe as it is today if GDKP’s were banned.

The real problem is the gold buyers. Ban those, and people will stop buying gold when they see their account is in danger.

As things are now, all Blizzard do is a small temporary ban (and confiscate the gold) if they finally manage to find a gold buyer. Nothing which prevents people trying again, with that microscopic risk of being caught.

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GDK raids are like casinos - its main purpose is not fun, its money laundering and bypassing laws - its way easier to track RMT and botting when no such system is out there that allows for people to launder money relatively easily.
at the same time it also incentivises people to buy gold with real money to then guarantee their item if it drops - its a roundabout pay to win mechanic
on top of that it promotes a non social environment, if you want a guaranteed item you usually need to be part of a guild-based-dkp system, which well… requires a solid guild setting. gdkp offers the opposite, its a global dkp system based on gold, but you are not in a guild setting at all - people group up solely for gains and not for making friends, having a good time, being social - classic was frankly mostly about social and fun, hence the absence of an actual difficulty in classic

while i agree that gdpk is a cool system in itself, because it allows randoms to go about their way, the abuse (in form of RMT/money laundering/anti-social setting) of it cannot and shouldnt be tolerated.

the waters run deeper than they appear on the surface unfortunately

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ive had a friend that bought gold, he got banned twice, yet no perma ban (which they claimed they would do, 2nd ban = perma)

ofc the story is a bit more facetted, but at the end of the day the 2nd report was that he stole gold from some1 and it was transferred back to its original user

this made me wonder if the RMT website mass reported him later after he bought gold and then they got their gold back
makes me wonder if blizz is in on this money making machine…

i just wanne play wow like its 2007 - even if i remove all of the external nonsense:

  1. not watching guides
  2. not watching social media
  3. only going into fresh raids with people that dont do the same
  4. wanting to actively grind pvp etc.

its just not the same simply because the players have changed, its very hard to find likeminded people that want to play and enjoy classic for what it was

alot of people want fast gear, twitch users who are supposed to be role models even buy gold and nothing ever happens besides frequent banwaves of bots that basically dont amount to much - i have a close eye on the auction house, i see how eevery banwave affects the market for a short while, until the bots have amassed again
additionally there is a shortcut even for rep-farming, pvp event is a hoax, rep gain is way too much and easily carries you to revered, after that it takes 21 weeks to be exalted without ever beeing in actual WSG just turning in the weekly insignia
even if you wanne enjoy wsg, most of the time you face premades - the argument “then do it too” doesnt sound very appealing, because bending to META is also anti-classic
no matter how thick skinned i am trying very hard to enjoy this game, its a very hostile environment

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Seen like 5 so far in chat in the past like 7 resets.

You are grossly exaggerating this problem or you are playing on the high PoP PvP servers, those are always infested by this stuff.

Wild growth is high pop and pretty free of this stuff

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I think GDKP is mainstream now and in future. If u don’t like it, find a SR or LC.

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Nah, it is only on the Firemaw cluster. Just stay away from there.

Here’s how GDKP has really ruined my WOTLK experience.

I, a 2004-2016 player, just started WOTLK recently, drawn back to the game by SoD, and then moving to WOTLK when I ran out of content.
I felt pretty good when I sold a low level green on the AH for 10g! Great, I thought. And then I saw the prices of everything.
I immediately went and acquired a WoW token. Earning gold means nothing to me now. I have a lot of IRL money. I also have a lot of time to play WoW. But I could never - in any way - earn the amount of money I need to buy anything useful at level 80 without WoW Tokens.
So the game just got more expensive. I don’t care. I’m an adult, I can afford to drop a lot of money on it. But earning money? Farming? They are now obsolete. Gone from the game.
GDKP is to blame. It has eliminated proper in-game mechanics for earning gold, as they used to be. It’s sad. It makes me wonder - will I even be able to play in Cata if other players are packing 50k? 200k? A million?

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Funny how all people claimed they started in 2004 … an no one played on US servers.

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Real players started with Wacraft: Orcs & Humans.

I hated Warcraft. Is why I only began playing WoW in late 2006 :wink:

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What is GDKP?

ofc goldbuyers should got banned pernamently, sad is that it needs to be even mentioned in game with montly subscribtion.

This system was so good but the classic andies had to cry because the nolifers cant master loot everything to them

They removed GDKP in SOD.

Result after 1 month :slight_smile:

  • SoD is dying hard (-50% population).
  • Gold easy to buy like never with very low price. Most people don’t care about being 14-day ban since you lose almost nothing (while previously, you would lose hundred of $).
  • Inflation on auction house going hard.
  • Since there’s now more “gold buyers” (for the reason I said), then there’s way more bots. The open worlds is full of bots.

Now in pugs raid :slight_smile: :

  1. A person winning an item that they don’t actually want (but they still roll for it because who know …).
  2. A person being denied loot because of personal biases.
  3. A person being denied loot because someone else decided it isn’t good for them.
  4. Players winning an item they don’t need for free and trading it to a friend.
  5. Players winning an item they don’t need for free and selling it to someone else for gold.
  6. Players leaving when an item doesn’t drop.
  7. Players that “have to go” after 1 wipe.
  8. Inability to fill a spot when someone leaves halfway through the raid.
  9. Players walking away empty handed.
  10. Players never returning to raid content once they obtain enough the gear.
  11. Players doing 1 raid and unsubscribe since it’s a complete fiesta now.

Meanwhile, GDKP WOTLK Classic and GDKP Era are rising like never.

Tldr : never trust clueless player thought and use science and data to back your claim.

Gold is cheaper because there are less buyers. You don’t know market mechanics?

There - fixed it for you.

Are you trolling? :rofl: - seems you are the clueless player here since you failed to back up your claims with data.

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