Or realize that you want something and other people don’t.
From my perspective RDF didn’t encourage people to play together. Instead it made many people see other players as annoying NPCs that should just do their job and go away. I remember the difference well, you might get 1 or 2 rage quitters in every 25/30 DGs in the old way, but RDF came in and now people screamed and quit at least 1 in 10, and this only got worse as expacs went on.
The extra effort put into getting a DG group, flying over, means people want to do that content, ive had groups argue and scream at each other all DG over “oh tanks bad”, “The dps ninja pulled and wiped us” etc etc, but no one left, because we all want to complete the DG regardless. A slower, but more consistent experience and I am happy with this.
But yeah, MMO just means Massive Multiplayer Online. But for the first 40 years of genre existing it meant one thing and then the games changed. Now everything where other players are visible is an MMO even if it means nothing to have other players around besides to stand and show off and what’s the point in showing off when everything you achieve was automated.
So yeah, we need a definition between What MMO’s use to mean, and the new “Shared World Experience” that players like you want.
Yes and it’s true in the both way.
I allow players to form their group if they want and walk-in to the dungeon, but they don’t allow us to use the RDF tool, because they are selfish.
The present is proving that RDF does not change the social.
How many post there is on the US forum about the fact dungeons are boring, healing like a robot while sleeping etc. Why ? Because it’s not because of RDF but because of the game design.
The problem is you talk in the past, while Classic is proving that it’s not like in the old days. I’m not leaving in a dream, i already said what Wotlk will be without RDF and it’s exactly happening.
This extra effort is annoying and doesn’t give “us” a better experience.
I don’t think flying, meaning afking alt tab google chrome is a better experience and immersiv.
RDF make “us” want to do that content. Without RDF, many of “us” stopped to do that content while we chained that on pserv.
And you won’t, because it’s going faster and faster with the stuff.
Wotlk Classic is another proving of the "You think you do but you don’t.
Also, don’t forget some of us played Wotlk over 10 years, there is no immersion for us, no nostalgia.
Again, the simple fact is we want to play 2 very different games. You can scream and cry all you want. I and stating how I feel about the game and I am having a great time as it is now, so i really don’t care what you think at all to be honest.
Again, hence the requirement for a change in new definitions in names. I want the game to go back to when it was a social situations, smaller servers, no layering, walking everywhere, slow leveling, rare stuff was actually rare, time consuming stuff was time consuming, hard stuff was hard. Yes I know that some redesign needs to be done to counter the shared information age we live in.
But WOTLK as it is right now, is the closest I Can get, so I will enjoy it while I can.
You want a shared world experience game so you can show off with ur friends and maybe group up sometimes. I want a good guild with like minded people to play with, raid, DG, PvP anything, Rushing silithus, I have had some great times over the passed few years with Vanilla and TBC and I am having a good time with WOTLK now.
WOTLK Naxx is a joke and a pushover raid. These requirements are arbitrary and absurd. I kinda feel bad for the people who don’t have a guild and are forced to rely on PUGs if they wanna raid.
What’s even more preposterous (and also hilarious) is that most PUG organizers are absolute scrubs that sometimes don’t even meet the high requirements they set for the rest of the participants. And they abuse HR to get geared while contributing nothing to the raid beside making the group.
Actually…
Let’s consider the state of the world around us, and the state of gaming… it might make perfect sense, albeit a sad one.
People funnel their competitive spirit to gaming, demanding an optimized, focused, committed attitude.
Just like at silly companies where a fresh graduate must have 3-5 years of experience.
Well… to combine with another topic / post, if you didn’t win the lottery, you are bad.
Also: drop your family, renounce your parents and friends, quit your job, as they take time. Threat some investor to pay you a fair income, and descend to your basement to play 16 hours a day or you are bad.
You personnal choice here. Like the people with 10 kids 2 wifes 3 jobs who complain about the game. Meanwhile they chose to play the most time consuming genre in the Classic version.
You don’t need to play 16h a day in WoTLK to get gear. It’s litteraly free. I just do my dailies + raid weekly and i’m already at 3900 GS.
The reason you need 3700 is because the people WOTLK has enticed back into classic are amoung the most toxic and entitled of the WoW community it seems.
I’ve been called a classic andy plenty of times - but the classic community are pretty chill in general. They all know if they NEED new guildies to raid, they can get them gear in a few days.
People asking for 3700 gearscore are using you because they want an easy ride for their own items.
Seriously though, a normal person should afford about 2 hours on weekday evenings and somewhere between 0 and 4 on weekends. Somebody says, leveling is about 30 hours. Then come normals, heroics, and then raiding.
Response wasn’t personal, there are just so many people talking down on those who don’t raid already.
A day in the life of
Wake up at 6. Breakfast. Oversee a kid preparing for school. Lift as needed.
8:30-17: Work. A bit more complicated because next is technically bad.
17-18: Collect kid. Arrive home. Settle down. (In reality, this is shifted around.)
18-19: Participate preparing dinner, some family life, playing talking what have you.
19-20: Dinner, wind down.
20-22: You can play. Assuming you don’t watch/do something together.
22-22.5: You have a spouse.
22.5-6: You really need 7.5 hours sleep.
Weekend is the same with taking care of the garden, going on a hike, spa, visiting family, what have you.
