But the bots are illegal, since they use third-party programs and evade the AFK reporting system. For queue in multiples premades you don’t need to use anything. You can even using the Bnet chat voice (For these who says discord is a “third-party program”).
XD I am talking about Blizzard’s bots! Did not you notice? There was brawl a couple of months ago. It was located on Arathi Basin map. There were players versus bots. The whole opposite team was bots entirely. These were nicknames with the dot at the end of them. And I don’t have to mention, do I, the outcome of these battles? I wander what for it was done? My bet is it was testing for some future “adjustments”. And hence that’s why in my post of possible solutions I proposed just to replace players with bots for premades, thus randoms are not hurt so much and premades can grind honor as efficently.
Ah, the comp stomp. Okok :o
But these bots are boring as hell. When i do PvP i want to play against anothers humans, otherwise I would do PvE.
Yes, but you compared randoms to amoebas with no brain cells. Guess we are them afterall. So in these fights you should not feel any difference. In my proposal teams are assembled first. If it is premade vs premade - have a go, it is up to you premade guys. But if randoms see a premade, they leave, saving their mood.
Not always, but some times they are terrible, but I notice more when they are in my team than in the enemy one. :S
Premades are Okay. What they have to do, is removing gear progresion for pvp, or that the difference is very small. I dont really like saw 30k people running arround the bg with and against 100k players. But its even worse when these 30k players are in your side.
This issue is already solved. Pvp gear is at max in BGs in DF.
That is geat.
Yet problem with randoms butthurt is still actual. In equal settings of numbers and gear. and even skill, the outcome is heavily decided by organization and coordination. My bet is if Blizzard will make 40 epic premades an option, the next thing we see will be the following battle type - people spread in the most efficient composition to avail of buffs and auras, etc, and to the same time avoid mass stun chains. So will it be a fun gameplay? I don’t know, for me and some others it will be a kind of mythic raid but in pvp. Perhaps it will be fun for PLs to try out new strats and comps, etc. And hence some time later some groups of premades from the bottom of food chain will again que into randoms to have “fun” by annoying people and enjoying the bright and warming light of their butthurt. Hence while 40vs40 premade battles is a welcome adjustment, it is not a solution. I made some sort of solutions which are welcome to be improved( Give players more choice options), and while writing this post I come up with crazy idea. Why not make so the one gathers 40 people group and fight in epice BG against 160 totally random players from 30k to max hp levels or something like that. At least it would be a fun for all. Zerg vs organisation.
If all the people in premades would just randomly queue in groups of 5, you’d still end up with a mix of those groups, and you’d still complain about premades.
So you expect us to pay 12 euros a month and play maybe 1 match a week because it’s impossible to gather 80 people at the same time? Nah mate, we also pay 12 euros a month. If you can’t win in PvP you either need better gear, or just git gud.
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See, premaders are a minority group. If you would have enough people, wargames would be optional. But there are scarce amounts of your kind, so you mix into larger pool and drag other people into your affairs. Not good mate. And if people will be mixed from different premades then yes, slightly but thing would be easier, as they would be spread in shear numbers, as well as it would be possible for one raid group having 3-8 PLs, lol.
If premades are such a minority group, then why are you complaining about it so much? If it’s a minority group, you’d hardly ever face any.
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As I said, minority that dissolves in larger pools. Add well known substance to the drink, same here.
At this point it’s only feeding the griefers and fueling their urge for more premades, can we just agree these are miserable people who dont deserve the attention they put so much effort into obtaining.
The game also restricts you from joining with more 5 people at a time but you exploit to join as full 40 group anyways
The same exact BS excuse was used by twinks in leveling brackets, yet when Blizz threw them in the bin and let them play only with each other, the leveling brackets boomed with ppl. Nobody believes your lies anymore. Pvp will be much healthier with premades facing other premades and the ques will be much faster.
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Do I though? Read the thread. I don’t join premades. You’ve assume actions based on my stance and you’ve made a mistake.
Get real, the majority of people play this game solo and you know it
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Stop complain and try lead team or join to some premade.
Dragonflight had a great intro, I loved the zones.
But the ship will sink hard and fast if they leave premades untouched.
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Premades will be untouched, you can be sure xD
Anyway I don’t understand the complaints about the premades if now horde lose against any random team too
Other competitive games removed premades or greatly reduced them. In league you can duo in solo q same for dota.
Blizzard won’t remove premades because their focus is not random bgs. They balance the game around pve and arenas. Pvp and premades wouldn’t be a clownshow if it wasn’t balanced around 3vs3.
I know a lot of people enjoy random bgs myself included ever since vanilla but they just won’t put resources into making random bgs enjoyable or don’t want to.
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