Premades are even worse than before

They always use the excuse that it’s “random BG” to say that 5 man premades shouldn’t exist, and that excuse is a fallacy and shows great ignorance.

I think premades in randoms should definitely exist. You shouldn’t be locked out from playing with your friends during pre-season or when you simply don’t want to worry about rating. WoW is more fun as a social activity imo, but options for solo play should exist too ofc.

I just participated in a premade and won 5 matches in a row this afternoon. To all the people complaining you have a chance to make your own groups, soon it’ll probably mean little since season 1 starts… but what can I say, despite horde being ‘horde’ I haven’t wasted a minute complaining about hardships and instead actively did something about it such as Merc’ing and joining a premade. Give it a try.

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If memory serves (not online atm) the icon/tab opposite to Rated BGs is called “Casual PvP”, where you have BGs, Brawls, Skirmishes etc. Random Battleground is the opposite of picking a specific one, such as only playing EotS for whatever reason.

It’s just odd that people assume that Random Battleground is some hidden hint from Blizzard that the composition of the team should be random and that that means the players did not join together. If Blizzard didn’t want 2-5 people joining Random BGs as a party, they would disable it, just like joining in a raid group is disabled.

People also tend to blame their defeats on things such as premades etc., when the real reason is their team just played bad and left bases unprotected etc. Or they blew all their CDs in a 5v1 and then had no CDs against the main group of the enemy team.

It’s called Quick Match. Funny how you see it so many times you forget, I had to check too and I was playing for like 5 hrs straight today :smile: When you go Quick Match in say Overwatch you can queue with mates too or solo. If you introduced solo-only queue on top of it we might end up with too many modes and we are not so many as pvpers.

I agree people shouldn’t make excuses. I was in Deepwind Gorge today where whenever my team mates capped they instantly left for another base the whole game, we won by like ten points but it was far more ‘thrilling’ than it had to be, haha. I must say I had to go full Merc this evening but then I won almost every bg and finished farming my gear so… As long as there are options to reach your goal it’s fine.

I remembered later that it was the same during SL pre-season, I met premades of top glad players (like Bicmex today) I know from ladder that I usually never meet because what else to do during pre-season as a pvper, it can be annoying but I don’t blame them for farming or whatever.

Ah, right. Don’t know why I thought it said Casual, it’s like I can even see it written. Fair enough.

A lot of the loses I have I just feel like it is fair that we lost. Like today some stupid Mage blinked and whatnot to cap Stables before me, so I assumed he would stay there and went to ninja Farm only to check map to see he capped it and left? And ofcourse the enemy Rogue took it. Then you have things like people standing on the node, trinketing Sap.

If people do things like this, they deserve to lose, regardless of whether they face a premade or not. I’m no pro myself, but some mistakes, especially when you see those people having a high honor level are just people being dumb.

I think people do not consider this and just assume “we lost cause premade”. I play alone so I’m not defending premades - disabling them wouldn’t affect me. Not that it matters, Blizzard isn’t gonna disable playing with friends in an MMO, these complaint threads only function as vent threads and echo chambers.

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Normal is to play random bg with 5man which is the only allowed group size you can que to random, this is normal “playing with friends on a mmo”

The other normal is to que 10man into rated bg which u can only que as full premade

Topic here is about people countdown queing set ammount 5man groups into normal battleground and abusing blizzards system trying to match same nationality realms on same game, once group gets pop they will discuss in comms if others got it aswell and only then go in game when all get it same time or otherwise throw the que and try again

This is abusing the system and infact is not what is intended, it is not intended to cheese full premade into random bg u are abusing the system and frankly just too bad to play like the rest of us if u have to cheat in game in order to play it

Today 8/10 games of random I saw full premades like this from german and french realms and u can see they are all in comms

When I look people like these I see they are career challenger players with a 1600 peaks as their max for pvp so I only assume this type gameplay is only thing they are able to do and interested on instead of actually trying a fair competition on some ranked

Good luck with everything in your life and all etc

Something tells me you will need it

If you had takens ome time you’d see I have already stated that I think a group vs group option should be implemented much like dota 2 has. Or rather a ‘strict solo queue’ option.

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“Didn’t know there is an option to queue up with 10, 20, 30 or 40 players… if the option doesn’t exist it isn’t supposed to work that way and you are just abusing something to circumvent that and therfore creating the problem many complain about. NOBODY will complain about a 5 player group in a 40 BG… or 15 BG with 10+ premades… people complain about getting into a 40 BG with 30+ people as a premade. You need a reality check mate.”

You are one of those people that do exactly that, absusing certain things to queue up with 10-15 ppl into a 15 BGs etc.
People like you are the worst in the game, absolutly the cheater mindset (kill the fun out of the game for OTHERS = the most fun for you and thats the only thing you care about). Same mindset as all these boosting people for example.

But you people are the first to cry when nobody is gonna play the game anymore, when it has negative influence on your experience, then you gonna start searching for excuses or blame others for the situation. The perfect characteristic behaviour for a narcissist, I know how you people approach online games. I have enough experience with these kind of people.

And WoW wouldn’t be the first game to gow down the toilette because of such people like you.

Some people here are asking for solo-queue though, you would not be able to do unrated BGs with friends anymore. They call it “modern approach”. What do you think about that?

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And it doesn’t exist, but no one unites in a group of 20 or 30. There are several groups of 5 entering the same BG queuing separately. It is alegal (Not to be confused with illegal). It’s a loophole in Blizzard’s rules, and that’s why they never ban anyone for doing it.

Would welcome it with open arms and cherish it as the best thing they add in game for last 17 years after witnessing all the abusing of the system people have been doing with ques to random bgs since vanil

People making full premades in random bgs with cheeseing the que system is the most toxic and discusting thing I know, effectively it just makes playing pvp miserable experience even for the most casual player who just wants to have random fun and in end propably will just quit game before he finds the rated games

Its hurting the game on long run to do this type toxic abusing but ppl are too disgusting to realise it

Of course, surely that is the problem, and not that leechers with 20-30k hp, healers that heal less than the DPS, Dps that hit less than the healers, people with tunnel vision that don’t play the objectives, afkers, absence of a good system to kick people who don’t play well or are absent…

It is not a excuse to cheat system and play random pvp mode as a 10-40man premade vs other team of randoms when the system is clearly meant to be max 5man only

What they are doing is abusing que system and if its the only pvp content they have been doing that tells me plenty about the people

Going 10v10 as premades are atleast fair for both but trying to beat complete random teams only with a 10man tells that u just enjoy trying stack the odds for ur favor in a mean of abuse btw and u coward away from real competition

Discusting behavior really

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You would cry, like many people, of 5 man premades. xD

Fail, try again

Atleast get ur facts straight before u quote me or bother me again

Maybe not you specifically, but read above or the other threads. They complain about both 5 premades and synced premades and ask for “solo Bgs”.

Fair enough, I have nothing against queing 5man into bg and it has always been feature ingame, I do tho have problem with people who intentionally abuse or cheat in anyform of competitive surroundings

Just like for many others in general cheating annoys us as you are abusing the system if u only accept que once u can cheese 40man prema inside av example or a 10man into 10v10 random with your countdown ques and abusing same nationality realms placements like people have been doing since vanil to avs, just if u can do something it doesnt mean u should.

You know I can stomp a untrained lightweighter as a trained fighter from a higher weight class but do you think I should? or do you think it would be allowed in anyform of competitions

Just because blizzard is lazy enough to not fix old exploit which enables you to go 40man prema inside same random av it doesnt mean that u should do it as ur regular and only gameplay… :man_facepalming:

And solo bg should be a thing just like soloq now and were needed in the game for years already

Lets stop repeating the same things like a broken record now and enjoy ur random bgs in the way they were meant and not trough of some cheat or exploit hopefully, have a really good evening

And random BG means “No groups bigger than 5 people”. You forget this point on purpose.

That’s just not true. It would mean if you queue with friends you’ll end up in queue against other people that play with friends, while solo players only end up with other solo players.
A huge difference.