Or just quit like 3 of my friends did. If Blizzard won’t listen let them see the number of people that stop playing due to this crap system.
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roll alliance and never win av lol
best advice i heard all day
no YOU go to retail.you retailers destroyed classic.premades need to stop.end of story.if you want competitive play,you and the rest of you can go to RETAIL which have rated bgs
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Same people defending BG premade abusing in every thread.
Guess they wouldnt find it very funny if they got queued against other premades
Would be a real shame if you had to actually fight for a win and not win by default just because you queued up as a premade group … pathetic
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I’m not a retailer, I’m somebody that wanted Classic for longer than you knew this board existed.
I wanted Classic knowing full well that people would mix/max it as much as they could, because that’s what people do with old games.
I wasn’t some idiot living in a fairy tale of randomers running around in green intellect gear on their warriors.
FYI: Seperating players is exactly what RETAIL does, not Classic. If you want players seperated, you want retail.
If you don’t want to play a game where everybody plays in the same league then you simply don’t want Classic.
Playing as a team in an MMORPG isn’t abuse.
They do. Premades face other premades as often as you puggers do.
Funny. Don’t you puggers want solo queues just so you can earn honor without actually playing with team mates? You’re the people that want the easy route. Solo queues in games have ALWAYS been easier than team queues.
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There is. You can play group pvp content in a group.
Often when I say that, and I do say that often, because some makes a thread about this every day, people get almost angry and upset. Like, how dare I tell people to play together in a group with people from their community in this MMORPG group content!?!?
If you absolutely can’t fathom the idea of playing with other people from your community you can wait a while until more and more people are done ranking. In Phase 5 the pve gear will mostly have catched up to the best pvp gear and less people will play premades and more will solo pug and oneshoot people in their AQ gear for fun.
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You can’t make Classic better. “Better” is an opinion and entirely subjective.
Better for you is worse for somebody else.
you might not feel like a retailer but you are if youre pro premading.
ppl that defend premades remind me of those ppl that wanted classic to be back so that they can have the true “vanilla experience”,then lvled in 3 days to 60 and were asking for TBC after 2 months.incredible
or those streamers that were also asking about true vanilla experience,also lvled in 3 days then made their guild donate mats for their legendaries or ninjaed bis gear.then they got back to retail because they had nothing to do,also asking for TBC
tryhards.those that premade are the same as them.theyre abusing the 15 year old system trying to rank faster and easier and when they do,theyll go back to retail.theyre making blizzard seem that they were right with the infamous “you think you do but you dont”
you ppl have no place in classic.i hope blizzard sees this fast and stops this madness
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no,youre just grouping up with the most geared ppl that suit you so that you can rank faster.the basic option,the random one also groups you up with ppl
you dont have to gather a group.dont try to justify it like that
What issue? There is no issue. If there are as much premade groups as you say there are, doesnt that mean a lot of people taking matters into their own hands and creating groups to get easy honor and marks?
So why cant you do it?
I do agree with the points you made, unlike others that go around spamming if you wanna fight a premade make your own. I cant do that always. What if i wanna do a couple of pickup games does that mean each time i want to play i gotta form a premade?
What do you mean players in the same league playing together? having a premade is exactly the opposite of that. Imagine a group of organised people playing versus a pug each time. Hows that fair?
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The current honor grind meta is that premading in AB/WSGis the fastest honor per hour. Premades don’t bother with AV, so AV would be your best bet for avoiding premades.
You can also just wait. People grind honor because the gear is BiS. Once AQ and Naxx are out, the gear is mostly obsolete. The amount of people trying grind it will be much lower, so there’ll be less premades.
There’s no seperate queues, there’s no seperate difficulties. In Vanilla, everyone plays together.
No, it isn’t.
It isn’t each time. Premades face just as many premades as you do. Fair is also irrelevant, Vanilla isn’ta balanced game. Even if you do seperate queues, one team is going to get randomed 7 warriors and the other team is going to get useful classes. That isn’t “fair” either.
No, that isn’t how this works.
Wanting seperate queues and difficulties - retail.
Wanting everyone to play together on the same difficulty - Classic.
My people ARE classic. It’s you solo puggers that should be playing retail.
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As someone who’s reached Rank 13 both now and 15 years ago.
It was NEVER about being GOOD AT THE GAME.
It was always about time.
No-life into the game and you rank up.
We know we’re not gods.
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But the thing is its not about good or bad, at this point i dont mind being in 20 pugs in a row with the most brainded people i prefer that any day to the premade that 5-0 in 5 mins. i wanna get the chance to play. The only good thing about AB at the moment is the queue. Imagine if that was 50 mins like AV
It’s the opposite.
People that want the “true vanilla” experience are the ones asking for changes to the authentic gameplay system so that the player behaviour will fit their arbitrary memory of how they believe it felt to play the game 14y ago.
Personally I am defending the authentic gameplay systems. That’s all.
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All that would happen if they changed it to premade v premade only would be that the good premades would farm the scrubs (in effect the scrub premades would become like the pugs). The matches would still be fast, due to the unwritten premade ethics of first team to win BS/ first flag etc.
I feel the people that mostly oppose this change probably fall into the scrub premade category, because they know for sure that if it goes ahead they basically won’t get any honor because they have no pugs to farm.
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do you even have common sense?.how is random queues against premades same difficulty and how is this premading situation the same experience like vanilla
boosted backpedaling pve dragonslayer heroes.thats what many of the premaders are.
and tryhards
whatever you say.whatever,you cant change the fact that youve destroyed classic pvp.you have no hope counting in your own strenghts so you just try to gather the most geared team to farm honor fast.like theres any rush
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Yes, I also have the ability to process knowledge; unlike you.
Because you’re in the same battleground, you’re in the same setting. If you feel like being in a group of randoms puts you at a disadvanage: play with a team. Make some friends, join some guildies.
None of that is worse than what you are: A crybaby. A crybaby that expects the world to revolve around themselves.
The world doesn’t revolve around you. Adapt to the game, if you want a game to change to suit you and your casual playstyle, go play retail.
I haven’t done anything. All I’ve done is tell crybabies like you that you’re nothing but a crybaby.
Life lesson little Azzul, you aren’t special. You aren’t unique and the world doesn’t owe you anything.
Grow up and adapt. If you want Daddy Blizzard to hold your hand while you play, go to retail.
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since from what i see you dont have a common sense or real arguements except that im a crybaby for pointing out the obvious,ive got nothing else to say to you other than that im going to enjoy your salty tears when blizzard changes this.theres no point of insulting you
no matter how sensible or how many arguements ppl have against your silly ones you wont or dont want to get it just because the situation suits you.youve got interest in to this
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