Premades should be stopped

What will happen if the queues are separated?

The honor and ranking meta changes drastically. When queues are seperated, the only people able to compete in the premade queue are the top end premades, which is basically the same as now… Except.

When the queues are seperated, solo players are able to gain more honor. That means that solo players outfarm the bottom end of premaders, forcing them into solo queue.

When most of the people are in solo queue, not only can they not play with friends any more; but they also have to compete with bots for honor. Because bots are now competitive honor farmers, topend premaders can no longer say “right, we’re capping honor at 850k so we don’t all have to grind 7 days a week”. Bots don’t care what players do, they just farm and farm, so the honor cap becomes higher than what a 24/7 leecher bot can farm in solo queue. (and if you remember from the AV meta, that’s quite a lot)

Furthermore, solo queuers then complain about the amount of bots in their game and how unfair the matchmaking is, once they see that 6/10 of their players are warriors and 3 of the others are “I dont play support” Ret.

So basically, seperate queue means top-end premades have to play more. Bottom-end premades (friends and casual guildies) can no longer play together, botters can honor farm again, people can effectively afk-leech again and the puggers are still miserable.

Or, things can be left as they are now, with just the puggers being miserable.

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Or u just accept the premades wont go away and join on or make one you’re own. Ez as that

Quote any post from anyone anywhere anytime where they defend premades per se.

Per se means in itself.

You dont know the difference between a question and accusation, do you know what it means when someone asking for proof and then adding or are you making that up ?.. not ‘or are you making that up’ leaving out the question mark one more time ! and the whole sentence you cut in half making it suit your narrative more to your liking.

YOU accused me of saying something i never said.

Questions and accusations aren’t unique, they can be one and the same. You’re question was worded as an accusation, and thus, it was an accusation.

I linked you saying it.

You linked me not saying it… you definitely dont understand english if you think that.

My wording was me not believing you and wanted proof, thats not me saying it wasnt true.

No, I didn’t.

the link to my post shows everything i said.

Yes, and you said “or are you making that up as you go along”.

That, my dear boy; is called an accusation.

another small insult/belittling me, you were not satisifed with ‘the link shows everything i said’. you are scared that it shows something you cant accept, why else would you continue this ?

Its not even about premade. Its an overall BG matchmaking system which is bad.

For example maybe I have a bad luck but in last few days I lost 90% of my pug vs pug AB games.
Mainly because alliance has overall better setups ( 4-5 healers while horde has 0 or 1 or 2 at very best ).

Only from today played like 10 AB games vs pugs , lost all none of them was even close to win.

I knew same matchmaking system was in vanilla as well but it never put horde ( my experience) in a so disadvantage position.

Cheers

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just do world pvp

If you remove the bots out of the equation then this post just sounds so fair i am all for it, i along with many others that are solo queueing are in this situation for others why shouldnt others be put in it? i am all for this

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Premade vs premade is a logical consequence and I’m pretty sure they will add it after the whole crisis stuation cooled down. They fixed the other broken situations, so this will be fixed too.

It doesn’t matter what you’re “all for” when you’re not the one paying the price for your system.

That’s basically saying “I’m all for communism because I’m not the one paying for people’s resources”.

Well this is a forum where the point is to share our ideas so yeh what i am “all for” is where this should be said.

You are not sharing ideas but whining at blizzard, expecting them to adapt to your “gameplay” disrespecting ours.

Not everyone want to play with randoms and spend the whole game with clueless people who end up losing it for you because at the end of the day it is a team game, this isn’t my definition of fun.

Talking about clueless people, i could talk about you, did you know that most of the people premade meet are in fact… premades ? Not that you would know because at the end of the day you’ve never tried to get into one.

Don’t hate the players, hate the game, this ranking system is terrible.

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Blizzard are not going to do the right thing, so only solution we have is

/afk, when you face a premade as pug.

If we all do it the premades reign may end.

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Blizzard already DID the right thing. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it wasn’t right.

That’s not how it works. Premades will still ge honor from you doing that.

If you don’t want to face premades, do one of the following:

  1. Wait. There’ll be less premades when the gear is outshined by AQ and Naxx gear.
  2. Do Battlegrounds on Monday or Tuesday when hardcore premades have already reached their honor goal.
  3. Wait for TBC.
  4. Go to retail.

Those are your options; crying will get you nowhere.